Arizona Speed & Marine Ingenious?????????
 

Anybody using this? How do they like it?

I'm having a hard time justifying the coin myself but hope to get the local Dyno shop to spring for it- I'd gladly pay him a bit more to tweak an EFI setup

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So, what is the question, am I missing something?

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It's the part with the 2 question marks :D

Who's using it and what do they have for feedback

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Does it work with any MEFI computer or just ones that they have initially programmed? I thought it was for specific computers (MEFI-4b) that were setup by them and if it is to be used for multiple units, they had to be initally setup also.

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From what I understand I'd have to buy a mefi 4 and go from there- but from then on I can tune it all I want

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From what they say on the web site, the software will only work with that one computer. They put some kind of ID on it. I called and asked if I could buy one and use it with 2 computers & was told no. WIll not work with MEFI 3 for some reason.

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Well pardon my ignorance, I thought INGENIOUS was a statement, not a product.

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FYI if anyone is still wanting info on this. There is an article in the June issue of Family & Performance Boating.

I have it on 2 recently purchased motors. But they have az speed/marine programmable computers. They came with a key with the original program on it.

Before you guys get into it. Talk to Scarab98 (Tom). He got it this year and had a horrible experience with it. Cost him his entire motor. Basiscally in a nut shell the program would whack out once in a while for no apparent reason and change all the settings. The last time it did it it went way too rich which in turn diluted the oil to the point that it spun the main bearings. Bad enough to where it couldn't be lined bored so he's waiting on a new block and crank. By the time he figured out what was going on it was too late, the damage was done. The only thing that could have let him know what was going on was his O2 sensor but that wasn't working. I'll let him know about this thread and he can elaborate
The sad part is he can't even get Jim to return his phone calls to talk about it and it has been over a week.

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I won't buy a hose clamp from AS&M. They said my ECM's were reprogrammed until I blew a motor and had Tyler reprogram them for me who said they still had the Merc lock and program in them......

Hey 29 kilroy what type of problem did you have with AZ speed. I just had a problem with my boat. What kit did yu have from them?

Well I bought my boat from a guy on Havasu and AS&M did a 454 upgrade on it, IMCO Exhaust, MSD, Fuel Regs., K&N Air Cleaners and ECM's reprogrammed. When I bought the boat and had it shipped here the first thing I did was call them about the ECM programs and make sure they would be okay. They said it will be 100% fine even with it being cooler in NY. I know enough about motors but nothing about programming ECM's. Well I just had a piston run lean, skuff the block and burn the Exhaust valve. I have since had HTG Racing put together a Tyler motor package. When I set the box to Tyler he called and said I thought you said AS&M programmed the boxes? I said yes, Tyler said they still had the Merc. lock on them and Factory program. He couldn't believe a motor didn't fail before it did.....Well I can't believe I thought this but seconded guessed who I bought it from. He gave me the original reciept that listed all the parts and labor and on the fourth line down (2) Electronic Control Unit modified totaling $900 dollars.

Do you think Tyler has Mercruisers password to know for sure? Anyone that can do this can put their own password in it and lock it. There are enough threads around with toasted engines that he has programmed with plenty of reasons it wasn't the programming. BS -

See this post - http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...d.php?t=163919

IMCO Exhaust, MSD, Fuel Regs., K&N Air Cleaners are no reason to reprogram. Its really easy, lean it out to make more hp and when one parameter is slightly wrong - BANG!

Put it on a dyno and see for yourself, it will be the best money you spend on the project.

I am only going by what I was told and have now reason to believe other wise. Hell, call AS&M on the phone and tell me if you think they know what they are doing....

Again I don't know anything about the actual programming of an ECM but for me anytime you modify something from Fac. specs you should be chnaging the ECM.

I agree the Dyno is the best way of knowing but Tyler has built enough of these he didn't feel I needed too. Between HTG and Tyler I am running 81 on GPS @ 5500 against the Rev. limiters so with a new set of 28's at my door today, I am hoping for a couple more mph's if I can get the rpms down to 5200 .

I wouldn't trust AS&M either. I hope all works out for you.

29 Kilroy I have twin 496 ho's in my boat . The speed kit were already installed. I had the # 1 cylinder run bolw a chunk of piston off,tearing up my valves. I noticed while tearing down the motor,that the computer has az speed sticker on it. How many hours did yours blow. Now I'am wondering if I should scrape these parts.

Sorry to hear about your luck but mine did the samething. Mine didn't have a sticker on it but they billed him for it and when I called they said sometimes they don't out stickers on...... The guy I bought it from didn't know enough about boats to even think about buying different ECM's before I bought it so I know that didn't happen.

I am not in anyway trying to bash them, I am just stating what my experinece has been and hoping I can help someone else. Just get all of the facts before buying.....

Which cylinder was it for you? how many hours were on it before it went??

http://www.obd2allinone.com/sc/detai...fi&track=mefbn
Better customer service & better product all the way around.

Send me all that stuff so I can get it fixed for you, FOOL!

Hey :chimp: Dont the motors have to be in the boat?

You moron, I'm gonna plug them in on the bench.

ive heard the same,not good

I bought the software and 4b. I sent them my mefi3 so they can copy it's config to the 4b so I would have a good running config to start with. I couldnt get the 4b to work (motor wouldnt start). Put the 3 back on and it runs as before.
Hell of a time getting ahold of Jim as he seems to be the only one there worth talking to.

Not a good experience yet and still trying to get assistance.