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Diacom Guru needed Dave_n?????
I was HAULIN' ACE today and I went into guardian mode, solid buzzer.
Here's my history file.....I think I went into guardian mode for low sea pump pressure but not sure. It looks like the cam, crank and map sensor all tripped at 109.77 hrs. I came of plane and everything seemed OK, guages OK, ran back to the marina OK. I'm thinking I caught some grass or garbage on my water pickups. DIACOM ® Diagnostic Status Report 09/08/2006 19:01:14 1. VEHICLE CONFIGURATION Engine Make: N/A Engine Serial No: N/A Model Year: N/A System Type: MerCruiser PCM555 2. PERFORMANCE DATA Parameter Description Value Unit Available Power 100 % Baro Pressure 14.59 Battery Voltage 12.54 Coolant Temperature 140.00 Engine Speed 0 RPM Fuel Flow Rate 0.00 GPH Fuel Level 1022 # IAC Duty Cycle 0.00 Lake/Sea Temp 431.60 °F Manifold Absolute Pressure 14.57 Manifold Air Temperature 127.40 Oil Pressure 0.25 Paddle Wheel 0 Hz Pitot ADC 0 # Port Exhst Cool Temp 131.00 Sea Pump Pressure 0.66 Sensor Power 5.01 VDC Spark Advance 6.00 Starb Exhst Cool Temp 129.20 Throttle Position 0.12 Throttle Sensor Voltage 0.59 Trim Position 0 # Trim Volts 0.00 VDC 3. TROUBLE CODE STATUS Current ECM Codes Sensor Fault, click Read Fault button for details Trouble Code List: PITOT CKT LO Code is active FUEL LVL CKT HI Code is active STEER CKT HI Code is active TRIM CKT LO Code is active FUEL LVL2 CKT H Code is active Freeze Frame Data: 0 OVERSPEED -------------------------------------------------------------------- FF Baro Pressure 14.70 PSI FF Battery Volts 14.43 VDC FF Sea Pump Pressure 3.61 PSI FF Boat Speed 2.00 FF Manifold Air Temp 125.60 °F FF Coolant Temp 165.20 °F FF Demand 1.13 % FF Engine Speed 923 RPM FF Engine State Running FF FPC Total 39.4 Counts FF Frequency Count 17 FF Fuel Level 0.00 % FF Gear Position In Gear FF Lake Temp 429.80 °F FF Engine Load 16.79 % FF Main Pwr Relay Requests 33812.0 FF Manifold Air Pressure 11.25 PSI FF Oil Level 0.00 % FF Port Tab Pos 0.32 % FF Available Power 100 % FF Run Time 110.93 hrs FF Starboard Tab Pos 0.00 % FF TPS Percent 1.13 % FF Trim Position 0.00 % 1 TRIM CKT LO -------------------------------------------------------------------- FF Baro Pressure 14.59 PSI FF Battery Volts 12.38 VDC FF Sea Pump Pressure 0.19 PSI FF Boat Speed 0.00 FF Manifold Air Temp 118.40 °F FF Coolant Temp 140.00 °F FF Demand 0.12 % FF Engine Speed 0 RPM FF Engine State Stall FF FPC Total 0.0 Counts FF Frequency Count 885 FF Fuel Level 0.00 % FF Gear Position In Gear FF Lake Temp 431.60 °F FF Engine Load 0.00 % FF Main Pwr Relay Requests 32772.0 FF Manifold Air Pressure 14.59 PSI FF Oil Level 0.00 % FF Port Tab Pos 0.08 % FF Available Power 100 % FF Run Time 111.28 hrs FF Starboard Tab Pos 0.00 % FF TPS Percent 0.12 % FF Trim Position 0.00 % 2 STEER CKT HI -------------------------------------------------------------------- FF Baro Pressure 14.59 PSI FF Battery Volts 12.36 VDC FF Sea Pump Pressure 0.34 PSI FF Boat Speed 0.00 FF Manifold Air Temp 123.80 °F FF Coolant Temp 140.00 °F FF Demand 0.12 % FF Engine Speed 0 RPM FF Engine State Stall FF FPC Total 0.0 Counts FF Frequency Count 876 FF Fuel Level 0.00 % FF Gear Position In Gear FF Lake Temp 431.60 °F FF Engine Load 0.00 % FF Main Pwr Relay Requests 32772.0 FF Manifold Air Pressure 14.58 PSI FF Oil Level 0.00 % FF Port Tab Pos 0.19 % FF Available Power 100 % FF Run Time 111.28 hrs FF Starboard Tab Pos 0.00 % FF TPS Percent 0.12 % FF Trim Position 0.00 % 3 FUEL LVL2 CKT H -------------------------------------------------------------------- FF Baro Pressure 14.59 PSI FF Battery Volts 12.36 VDC FF Sea Pump Pressure 0.33 PSI FF Boat Speed 0.00 FF Manifold Air Temp 123.80 °F FF Coolant Temp 140.00 °F FF Demand 0.12 % FF Engine Speed 0 RPM FF Engine State Stall FF FPC Total 0.0 Counts FF Frequency Count 879 FF Fuel Level 0.00 % FF Gear Position In Gear FF Lake Temp 431.60 °F FF Engine Load 0.00 % FF Main Pwr Relay Requests 32772.0 FF Manifold Air Pressure 14.58 PSI FF Oil Level 0.00 % FF Port Tab Pos 0.18 % FF Available Power 100 % FF Run Time 111.28 hrs FF Starboard Tab Pos 0.00 % FF TPS Percent 0.12 % FF Trim Position 0.00 % 4 PITOT CKT LO -------------------------------------------------------------------- FF Baro Pressure 14.59 PSI FF Battery Volts 12.30 VDC FF Sea Pump Pressure 0.52 PSI FF Boat Speed 0.00 FF Manifold Air Temp 123.80 °F FF Coolant Temp 140.00 °F FF Demand 0.12 % FF Engine Speed 0 RPM FF Engine State Stall FF FPC Total 0.0 Counts FF Frequency Count 802 FF Fuel Level 0.00 % FF Gear Position In Gear FF Lake Temp 431.60 °F FF Engine Load 0.00 % FF Main Pwr Relay Requests 32772.0 FF Manifold Air Pressure 14.58 PSI FF Oil Level 0.00 % FF Port Tab Pos 0.45 % FF Available Power 100 % FF Run Time 111.28 hrs FF Starboard Tab Pos 0.00 % FF TPS Percent 0.12 % FF Trim Position 0.00 % 5 FUEL LVL CKT HI -------------------------------------------------------------------- FF Baro Pressure 14.59 PSI FF Battery Volts 12.30 VDC FF Sea Pump Pressure 0.51 PSI FF Boat Speed 0.00 FF Manifold Air Temp 123.80 °F FF Coolant Temp 140.00 °F FF Demand 0.12 % FF Engine Speed 0 RPM FF Engine State Stall FF FPC Total 0.0 Counts FF Frequency Count 810 FF Fuel Level 0.00 % FF Gear Position In Gear FF Lake Temp 431.60 °F FF Engine Load 0.00 % FF Main Pwr Relay Requests 32772.0 FF Manifold Air Pressure 14.58 PSI FF Oil Level 0.00 % FF Port Tab Pos 0.43 % FF Available Power 100 % FF Run Time 111.28 hrs FF Starboard Tab Pos 0.00 % FF TPS Percent 0.12 % FF Trim Position 0.00 % 6 CRANK SNSR -------------------------------------------------------------------- FF Baro Pressure 14.73 PSI FF Battery Volts 11.28 VDC FF Sea Pump Pressure 0.62 PSI FF Boat Speed 0.00 FF Manifold Air Temp 120.20 °F FF Coolant Temp 156.20 °F FF Demand 0.00 % FF Engine Speed 324 RPM FF Engine State Running FF FPC Total 25.0 Counts FF Frequency Count 34 FF Fuel Level 0.00 % FF Gear Position In Gear FF Lake Temp 431.60 °F FF Engine Load 21.33 % FF Main Pwr Relay Requests 33812.0 FF Manifold Air Pressure 14.31 PSI FF Oil Level 0.00 % FF Port Tab Pos 0.24 % FF Available Power 69 % FF Run Time 109.77 hrs FF Starboard Tab Pos 0.00 % FF TPS Percent 0.00 % FF Trim Position 0.00 % 7 CAM SNSR -------------------------------------------------------------------- FF Baro Pressure 14.73 PSI FF Battery Volts 11.44 VDC FF Sea Pump Pressure 0.63 PSI FF Boat Speed 0.00 FF Manifold Air Temp 120.20 °F FF Coolant Temp 156.20 °F FF Demand 0.00 % FF Engine Speed 323 RPM FF Engine State Running FF FPC Total 25.0 Counts FF Frequency Count 35 FF Fuel Level 0.00 % FF Gear Position In Gear FF Lake Temp 431.60 °F FF Engine Load 21.33 % FF Main Pwr Relay Requests 33812.0 FF Manifold Air Pressure 14.31 PSI FF Oil Level 0.00 % FF Port Tab Pos 0.25 % FF Available Power 69 % FF Run Time 109.77 hrs FF Starboard Tab Pos 0.00 % FF TPS Percent 0.00 % FF Trim Position 0.00 % 8 GUARDIAN -------------------------------------------------------------------- FF Baro Pressure 14.70 PSI FF Battery Volts 14.08 VDC FF Sea Pump Pressure 8.38 PSI FF Boat Speed 12.00 FF Manifold Air Temp 125.60 °F FF Coolant Temp 158.00 °F FF Demand 97.59 % FF Engine Speed 4821 RPM FF Engine State Running FF FPC Total 80.0 Counts FF Frequency Count 0 FF Fuel Level 0.00 % FF Gear Position In Gear FF Lake Temp 431.60 °F FF Engine Load 37.07 % FF Main Pwr Relay Requests 33812.0 FF Manifold Air Pressure 14.04 PSI FF Oil Level 0.00 % FF Port Tab Pos 0.25 % FF Available Power 5 % FF Run Time 110.93 hrs FF Starboard Tab Pos 0.00 % FF TPS Percent 97.59 % FF Trim Position 0.00 % 9 MAP INPUT HI -------------------------------------------------------------------- FF Baro Pressure 14.73 PSI FF Battery Volts 11.30 VDC FF Sea Pump Pressure 0.64 PSI FF Boat Speed 0.00 FF Manifold Air Temp 120.20 °F FF Coolant Temp 154.40 °F FF Demand 0.25 % FF Engine Speed 297 RPM FF Engine State Crank FF FPC Total 0.0 Counts FF Frequency Count 66 FF Fuel Level 0.00 % FF Gear Position In Gear FF Lake Temp 431.60 °F FF Engine Load 0.00 % FF Main Pwr Relay Requests 33812.0 FF Manifold Air Pressure 14.75 PSI FF Oil Level 0.00 % FF Port Tab Pos 0.22 % FF Available Power 76 % FF Run Time 109.77 hrs FF Starboard Tab Pos 0.00 % FF TPS Percent 0.25 % FF Trim Position 0.00 % Fault Log Data Fault Descriptions Seconds Battery Range High: 0 Battery Range Low: 0 Block Pressure is Low: 0 Compressor Temp Overheat: 0 ETC Motor Open: 0 ETC Motor Short: 0 Fuel Pressure Sensor Input High: 0 Fuel Pressure Sensor Input Low: 0 Guardian Strategy: 22 Knock Sensor 1: 0 Knock Sensor 2: 0 Low Oil Pressure Strategy: 0 Low Oil Remote Strategy: 0 Low Oil Reserve Strategy: 0 MAP Sensor 1 Input High: 44 MAP Sensor 1 Input Low: 0 MAP Sensor 1 Idle Rational: 0 Oil Pump Output: 0 Overspeed: 20 Port Clnt Overheat: 0 Starboard Clnt Overheat: 0 Warning Horn Output: 0 Water In Fuel: 0 Engine Run Time History: Total engine run time: 111.28 Hours 0 - 749 RPM: 30.50 Hours 750 - 1499 RPM: 16.10 Hours 1500 - 2999 RPM: 8.32 Hours 3000 - 3499 RPM: 24.97 Hours 3500 - 3999 RPM: 24.62 Hours 4000 - 4499 RPM: 4.77 Hours 4500 - 4999 RPM: 1.97 Hours 5000 - 5499 RPM: 0.05 Hours Over 5499 RPM: 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Re: Diacom Guru needed Dave_n?????
Dave,
I don't think it was due to low Sea Pump Pressure, and it is hard to say exactly what happened, but it looks like the Overspeed fault is the one that caused you to go to Guardian mode. Both occured at 110.93 engine hours. What exactly happened? Did the engine completely shut down, or did it just slow to a certain RPM? The crank, cam and MAP faults all occured during start-up at 109.77 engine hours. It's not unusual for a 496 to have stored crank and cam faults but still run normally. The stored MAP fault shows a frequency count of 66. This isn't normal and something is going on there, but it doesn't look like that factors in with your Gaurdian Mode incident at 110.93 engine hours. You may want to throw a new MAP sensor in there. I would suggest clearing all faults and the freezframe memory and if it happens again, hook up the computer before shutting down. Dave |
Re: Diacom Guru needed Dave_n?????
Boost?
Manifold Air Pressure 14.58 PSI |
Re: Diacom Guru needed Dave_n?????
Thanks Dave. The motor did not shut down completely. I was running at about 4500 RPMs and I had a sudden loss of power and the motor sounded REAL bad. I came off plane, it came back to an idle and seemed fine. My guages looked fine too. I didn't want to shut it off, so I let it idle for a few minutes and then headed back to the marina. I didn't take it above 4000 rpms on the way back, but everything seemed normal. I got home, flushed the motor and ran the diags.
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Re: Diacom Guru needed Dave_n?????
Dave,
The active faults you show are normal. You may have one in fault history that shows up. The Cam, Crank, and Map faults appear to be during engine start. This is not uncommon. The one thing that stands out to me is the sea pump pressure in the Guardian FF is only 8.38 @ 4821 RPM with 5% Available Power. I do not recall the range, but I think it should be closer to 15. |
Re: Diacom Guru needed Dave_n?????
Originally Posted by Island Hopper
Dave,
The active faults you show are normal. You may have one in fault history that shows up. The Cam, Crank, and Map faults appear to be during engine start. This is not uncommon. The one thing that stands out to me is the sea pump pressure in the Guardian FF is only 8.38 @ 4821 RPM with 5% Available Power. I do not recall the range, but I think it should be closer to 15. As soon as I came off plane everything seemed fine. This time of year there are a lot of clumps of sea weed and grass floating in the water. I'm thinking I caught omething on the outdrive that wouldn't come off. I havn't ran the boat since then. I hope to run it this weekend. The math adds up too, it occurred approx. 25 minutes before I ran the diags. It took me about 15 minutes to get back to the marina, then I flushed it for 5 or 10 minutes. |
Re: Diacom Guru needed Dave_n?????
Well, I ran the boat pretty hard yesterday and NO problems. I scanned the motor when I got home and no codes where present except for the usual ones.
I'm sticking with my assumption that I caught some trash on the water pickups. That would of lowered my sea pump pressure and could of caused the overspeed by cavitating the prop. The new technology is great. If it was the older style motors I probably would of toasted my impellor and possibly the whole motor. |
Re: Diacom Guru needed Dave_n?????
What about the MAP fault(s)? Did it come back?
Dave |
Re: Diacom Guru needed Dave_n?????
Originally Posted by Dave_N
What about the MAP fault(s)? Did it come back?
Dave |
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