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Re: compairing out drives

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Originally Posted by tomcei (Post 1977480)

The boat in question is a 28 Pantera single engine.
Does anyone think this is to stern heavy with a #6 ? I wouldn't think it would be as bad as twins w/ bravo's on the c.g.
I assume the #5 is a lighter assmy.
I certinly don't want to change the handling too much. I does seem to be balanced very well.

i have rigged numerous 27 activators with bravo set up's, which is close in comparison to your boat. one in particular was an older 27 straight bottom activator, with a #5 on the transom, and a 900 h.p big block. being there was a tranny( and later a crash box) in this application and the engine had to be slid forward, the weight of the drive and transom assembly did not effect the performance of the boat. as a matter of fact it happened to be one of , if not the best running boats in that size range or slightly larger i have ever run or eun in. absolutely incredible c.g and running balance, not to mention the boat ran 111 mph.
compared to the bravo boat of same brand the investment was well worth it, being it was infact vertually bullet proof.

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Originally Posted by monstaaa (Post 1977412)

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I like the quote

Punching a WET PAPER BAG:drink:

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Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388 (Post 1977529)

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Punching a WET PAPER BAG:drink:

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Any ball park on the weight dif between the #5 & #6 ?

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Originally Posted by tomcei (Post 1977480)

No, they put twins in them:rolleyes:

You'll be fine, by the way i think the #5 is rated for 800hp.

Cougarman

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p.s. as for it being a twin boat, those boats probably dont run as well as a single high h.p single in rough water due to all that extra weight in the stern.

and i believe the weight differernce is a bout 75 lbs from 5 to 6. drive and transom assembly. including the steering on the 5.

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Originally Posted by monstaaa (Post 1977407)

a stronger bravo style drive on bravo gimbal or an i.t.s gimbal is not good from a mate standpoint, nor for a person with a heavy throttle hand. especially adding say a b-max. your increasing the load of the mechanical leverage agianst the original design,by increasing the weight of the drive itself. thus increasing the failure rate in critical areas ,like the pivot pins, and the helmut. i have seen this many times , and more so in conjunction with the use of the b-max. all your doing is moving the weak link from one area to another.

as far as the merc gimbal beeing the week link, it would depend on the boat length and weight. again mechaincal levrage comes into play as well as the c.g.

lastly and most importantly when a product is used in a fashion above and beyond its original design failure isnt possible it;s eminant.

although gary and i have routinely pushed his gladiator over the 100 mark with out any failure in the engine, gimbal, or drive, i would say this attests to frquent checks of all moving parts, good design,and proper opperation in that relm.
remember hevy hands yeild heavy hits especially when punching a WET PAPER BAG.

Bo, You Da Man! :cool:

I agree with you 100%. In the end consider the pro's and con's for each setup and pick what fits into your budget, there will always be give/take. :drink:

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I also have and HD Gimbal/transom assembly for sale in the swap section if it ever comes back!!

The unit has 65 hours fresh water only.

Kirk

Pictures were posted in the Pantera section. Konrad pictures in a couple weeks I hope. It's in production.

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We put 950 through a #3 in on the boat in the pic under my name. # seasons and we havent had a single problem. The 3a is stronger and better. We have a 2 speed trans which is good for taking the load off during take off and a soft touch limiter which mist help but we give it a hard time and it lives. We will change to a #5 if it breaks. Wouldnt consider any bravo type unit without some big convincing it wouldnt break. Much lighter though and much less HP to turn than a SSM. Jas

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Should the transom of a bravo powered boat be beefed up if switching to 5 or a 6? As you said, just moving the weak link to a new location.