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Re: Kieth Eckert Manifolds make more power than CMI Headers
Originally Posted by BGIII
(Post 2006901)
If that is the case, then why would they use Edelbrock heads? We all know that they are not the best available.
525-550 horsepower is not rocket science. They are buying what makes the boat look faster/better and what they can get the best deal on. With the outrageous prices Mercury Racing charges for their product, it has to look like it is different or better than regular Mercury product. I don't think a guy that is willing to pay 300-500k for a boat w/ 525's and goes as far as to have airbrushed battery hold downs, wants a big old clunky set of KE's under the hatch. It doesn't matter how much horsepower, how good or how reliable they are. I do know that if I had a set of 525's in a 3 year old boat and needed to buy $10,000 worth of new headers because they were leaking, I would be the most pissed off guy on the internet. I could not agree with you more. |
Re: Kieth Eckert Manifolds make more power than CMI Headers
Originally Posted by Rage
(Post 2007032)
"if I had a set of 525's in a 3 year old boat and needed to buy $10,000 worth of new headers because they were leaking, I would be the most pissed off guy on the internet"
I could not agree with you more. |
Re: Kieth Eckert Manifolds make more power than CMI Headers
When MR sells the CMI's on a 525 are they warrantied same as engine and if they spring a leak is the engine damage covered?
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Re: Kieth Eckert Manifolds make more power than CMI Headers
Originally Posted by Too Old
(Post 2007321)
Fortunately, guys with 525s now have some choices when it comes to replacing those headers.
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Re: Kieth Eckert Manifolds make more power than CMI Headers
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I personally think manifolds are not very attractive at all. I will stick with high polish SS Headers from CMI.
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Re: Kieth Eckert Manifolds make more power than CMI Headers
Originally Posted by bob
(Post 2006705)
Rage, interesting comment as I had good inside info that Merc had made offers to KE to purchase his pipes. KE opted not to go there.
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Re: Kieth Eckert Manifolds make more power than CMI Headers
Originally Posted by bcarpman
(Post 2007781)
If that's true, it would backup my thought's on how much MR is actually paying for the CMI's The only reason KE wouldn't want to go there is if MR low balled them so much they decided it wasn't worth it. I've seen it happen before: CMI may be making almost nothing on their sales to MR, but are counting on the fact that having everyone see their stuff on Blue motors will sell a lot more of the normaly priced headers to compensate.
And how about the replacements on all of those MR engines when they get out of their warranty and they leak? Why, hello Fred, got any pipes?:D I don't think Stellings making a competitive replacement was within their business plan. |
Re: Kieth Eckert Manifolds make more power than CMI Headers
Brad,
Nice looking piece and rigging job. What was the process you used to get your alternator looking clean? |
Re: Kieth Eckert Manifolds make more power than CMI Headers
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Manifolds certainly wouldn't enhance the look of my engine, or the performance!! To each his own though. :D
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Re: Kieth Eckert Manifolds make more power than CMI Headers
Originally Posted by Pantera28-650HP
(Post 2008288)
Manifolds certainly wouldn't enhance the look of my engine, or the performance!! To each his own though. :D
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KE EX now being produced by ?
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A lot of water, pardon the pun, has gone under the bridge, or in the engines, since this thread started. I'm glad to see it come back around to where one can get the KE's and of course the GenX's are out now.
Any comparisons between the KE's and the GenX's? |
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I just bought a barely used set of these instead of tube headers and planning to run them dry. I really like the engineering that went into these and their solid reliability record in racing applications. I think they look awesome as well. And if you don't who cares? I'm not lifting the hatch every 5 mins showing off the engine?!
Coolerman's pic: http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/...psufqxtf8l.jpg |
My old neighbor in MI had those on his boat. He had a N/A 555CI engine and ran them dry boat sounded bad a$$ and was super loud! I thought they looked cool in his boat.
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Borgie, nice manifold. Why are you thinking of running it dry? You'd have over heating problems at the exhaust flanges that way,no?
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Originally Posted by spectras only
(Post 4042792)
Borgie, nice manifold. Why are you thinking of running it dry? You'd have over heating problems at the exhaust flanges that way,no?
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Originally Posted by the deep
(Post 4042796)
Dry as in the cooling water never mixes with the exhaust stream .
I know that,lol. I've installed Stellings dry exhausts before. Not a fan of dry exhausts anymore. http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/c...20interior%201 Got EMI wet manifolds with s/s risers on same engine now.. No rpm drops over the Stellings what so ever. We had over 104 db with the Stellings,Won't pass with the water popo on the lakes! |
Noise laws are only enforced at havasu. The lake I frequent, not unless you are a total D bag.
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Lake Okanagan used to be a great place for any high HP boat. Now they're on like donkey kong with anyone with dry exhausts that's reverberate from Peachland to Penticton. Buddy of mine only launches his triple engined boat at the Richmond launch next to the airport,LOL.
I's freaking loud and sounds like an airplane on takeoff. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9VCdKpoh1Q How's your transom repair going? |
Originally Posted by Coolerman
(Post 2004187)
Here is a cutaway pic of when I made the headers. They are all 31 to 32 inches in length with a 4 into 2 into 1 collector.
Typically it performed like any good 2 X 32 header with frequently a little extra torque around 3600 to 4400 rpm because the 4-2-1 collectors which typically broaden the torque band. The runners actually have an oval profile with an area equal to a 2" round header. Currently we are using them on 1250 HP motors. Dennis |
Originally Posted by spectras only
(Post 4042829)
Lake Okanagan used to be a great place for any high HP boat. Now they're on like donkey kong with anyone with dry exhausts that's reverberate from Peachland to Penticton. Buddy of mine only launches his triple engined boat at the Richmond launch next to the airport,LOL.
I's freaking loud and sounds like an airplane on takeoff. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9VCdKpoh1Q How's your transom repair going? As for your Friends boat,,,, WOW!!! You weren't exaggerating. Glad mine won't be half that loud. Thing is angry! |
Originally Posted by Sunrocket24
(Post 4042791)
My old neighbor in MI had those on his boat. He had a N/A 555CI engine and ran them dry boat sounded bad a$$ and was super loud! I thought they looked cool in his boat.
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Originally Posted by Borgie
(Post 4043002)
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As for your Friends boat,,,, WOW!!! You weren't exaggerating. Glad mine won't be half that loud. Thing is angry! |
So whats the story on these since no longer produced by Eickert?
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Diamond performace took over and now produces them: http://www.diamondperformanceparts.c...roductid=16660
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what is the warranty on the new diamond performance header
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Originally Posted by baja27
(Post 4056516)
what is the warranty on the new diamond performance header
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Originally Posted by endeavor1
(Post 4042847)
Wow, never knew Dennis posted on here. Always thought it was Saxman
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In regards to the reliability of these headers, these castings are not easy to produce and there are always exceptions to the rule where a casting wasn't quite right (can happen with any vendor with any product).
Generally speaking, these things will last forever. All you really have to do is make sure you keep water to them, and have an air pop-off on your strainer so you don't get steam pockets collecting in the top of the header. We have ran them on our BT for 15 yrs. We have been putting 1500hp+ through them the past few years and have beat them to death, and they still run with no leaks. |
coolerman do you know the size of the primary's?
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Originally Posted by baja27
(Post 4060780)
coolerman do you know the size of the primary's?
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