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Full Force 05-11-2007 03:04 PM

what SBC head to run?
 
I have a SBC in my boat, it is a Chris Craft 245 Limited, I have a balanced and forged roller shortblock, now with 9.5:1 with 64 CC heads, GM cam ZZ( (112LCA INT.212 EXH .226 Lift is .483/.520 I have dart sprtsman200 heads with a 200CC intake runner, performer intake, and 650 holley, I am thinking my heads are killing the torque, I got them cheap so I thought I would try them, I was thinking going with a 170-180CC intake runner, does that sound good with the cam I have?

what kind of small block combos are people running?

Ryan00TJ 05-11-2007 05:06 PM

Here's mine....
355ci
Eagle 4340 3.480" crank, forged I beams and TRW L2304 forged pistons, rotating assembly balanced very well. 1980-85 4 bolt block align honed, decked .020", bored .030" Melling M55A HO oil pump, Moroso 7qt oil pan w windge tray.
Edelbrock Performer RPM intake
AFR 190cc aluminum heads 74cc 10.0-1 SCR, .039 quench, 2.02I, 1.60E, Flow 261cfm @ .500 with strong midlift flow numbers
Morel Retrofit Roller lifters
224/230 .537/.511 112LSA 110ICL roller cam
Crane 1.6 roller rockers on I, Lunati 1.52 rollers on E
Holley 4150 750CFM carb
Smith Bros .083" wall 1 piece pushrods
Glenwood Marine HP aluminum manifolds w FastGlass 4" stainless smooth long risers that are 16" long. Almost a dry system as water hits the exhaust 3" before it leaves the tips. No Reversion

The 200cc's ports you currently have are a tad big for a 350.
A high velocity 180cc port would work better but that's alot of $$ for what gain I cannot say. Keeping the larger port is just going to need to be spun up higher. 5500+ rpms.

I like the AFR 190cc's, they flow great and make awesome power. The new Eliminators are even better than mine.

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2...s107cm1.th.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5...1075jy2.th.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7...1077oi8.th.jpg

Full Force 05-11-2007 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by Ryan00TJ (Post 2124889)
Here's mine....
355ci
Eagle 4340 3.480" crank, forged I beams and TRW L2304 forged pistons, rotating assembly balanced very well. 1980-85 4 bolt block align honed, decked .020", bored .030" Melling M55A HO oil pump, Moroso 7qt oil pan w windge tray.
Edelbrock Performer RPM intake
AFR 190cc aluminum heads 74cc 10.0-1 SCR, .039 quench, 2.02I, 1.60E, Flow 261cfm @ .500 with strong midlift flow numbers
Morel Retrofit Roller lifters
224/230 .537/.511 112LSA 110ICL roller cam
Crane 1.6 roller rockers on I, Lunati 1.52 rollers on E
Holley 4150 750CFM carb
Smith Bros .083" wall 1 piece pushrods
Glenwood Marine HP aluminum manifolds w FastGlass 4" stainless smooth long risers that are 16" long. Almost a dry system as water hits the exhaust 3" before it leaves the tips. No Reversion

The 200cc's ports you currently have are a tad big for a 350.
A high velocity 180cc port would work better but that's alot of $$ for what gain I cannot say. Keeping the larger port is just going to need to be spun up higher. 5500+ rpms.

I like the AFR 190cc's, they flow great and make awesome power. The new Eliminators are even better than mine.

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2...s107cm1.th.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5...1075jy2.th.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7...1077oi8.th.jpg

Looks like a good combo, what is it in, how does it run? I am looking at 170CC darts right now, maybe 180, I am trying to get some research done, I talked to Cam Motion today, they do custom cams, he said I can keep the cam I have but advance it 4 degrees to bring the power band down.

SneakyPete 05-11-2007 08:36 PM

I have AFR 180 Elimators. I purchased these heads at the recomendation of RM Builder. He is also grinding a cam to match the combo. The new 180 eliminators outlflow the old 190s, the small port should produce high velocity and great torque. I will tell you how it turns out once I get it together. They are going on a 383 w/ 6inch rods.

jmherbert 05-11-2007 10:24 PM

383 with:
Dart iron Eagle 200, 72cc.
Forged flat tops
crane 284H (228@050), .480 lift w /1.5 rockers
1.6 comp cams stainless rollers
Brodix dual plane
bG 750 mech secondaries
10.2:1 comp
Rhodes lifters
Revolution exhaust.

This motor pulls better than a 454 Mag. Seat o' pants dyno (semi educated guess is a bit above 400 HP in boat.

Instead of spending money on new heads, get that thing stroked! Then the heads would be perfect.

Full Force 05-11-2007 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by jmherbert (Post 2125183)
383 with:
Dart iron Eagle 200, 72cc.
Forged flat tops
crane 284H (228@050), .480 lift w /1.5 rockers
1.6 comp cams stainless rollers
Brodix dual plane
bG 750 mech secondaries
10.2:1 comp
Rhodes lifters
Revolution exhaust.

This motor pulls better than a 454 Mag. Seat o' pants dyno (semi educated guess is a bit above 400 HP in boat.

Instead of spending money on new heads, get that thing stroked! Then the heads would be perfect.

This has been a total budget deal so far, a stroker is not happening right now, I have around 1500.00 in ther whole thing right now, new heads, 800.00 stroker, alot more!!!

Full Force 05-11-2007 11:56 PM


Originally Posted by Ryan00TJ (Post 2124889)
Here's mine....
355ci
Eagle 4340 3.480" crank, forged I beams and TRW L2304 forged pistons, rotating assembly balanced very well. 1980-85 4 bolt block align honed, decked .020", bored .030" Melling M55A HO oil pump, Moroso 7qt oil pan w windge tray.
Edelbrock Performer RPM intake
AFR 190cc aluminum heads 74cc 10.0-1 SCR, .039 quench, 2.02I, 1.60E, Flow 261cfm @ .500 with strong midlift flow numbers
Morel Retrofit Roller lifters
224/230 .537/.511 112LSA 110ICL roller cam
Crane 1.6 roller rockers on I, Lunati 1.52 rollers on E
Holley 4150 750CFM carb
Smith Bros .083" wall 1 piece pushrods
Glenwood Marine HP aluminum manifolds w FastGlass 4" stainless smooth long risers that are 16" long. Almost a dry system as water hits the exhaust 3" before it leaves the tips. No Reversion

The 200cc's ports you currently have are a tad big for a 350.
A high velocity 180cc port would work better but that's alot of $$ for what gain I cannot say. Keeping the larger port is just going to need to be spun up higher. 5500+ rpms.

I like the AFR 190cc's, they flow great and make awesome power. The new Eliminators are even better than mine.

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2...s107cm1.th.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5...1075jy2.th.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7...1077oi8.th.jpg

What was in your 360CI small block for heads and cam?

mrhorsepower1 05-12-2007 06:19 AM

Your fine where your at, save your pennies for a stroker kit!:D

Full Force 05-12-2007 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by mrhorsepower1 (Post 2125301)
Your fine where your at, save your pennies for a stroker kit!:D

Stroker kit is not happening this year, I need to make the best with what I have as far as a shortblock, I am going to go with 170-180CC runner and advance the cam 4 degrees, cam motion said to also bring the power band down.

unbroken 05-13-2007 12:12 PM

GM Performance Bowties work awesome on my 383's!


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