Can't get rpm's up?? A TUFF! one here.
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Can't get rpm's up?? A TUFF! one here.
Ok, I have two 468 Mk IV big block that make over 590 hp on the dyno & ran at 6700 rpm with no problems. Using MSD ignition on the dyno stand on both engines. In my 30SS Sonic with 26" props, I can only get 3000rpms. I am using Mercruiser HP500 ignition (complete factory) with no rev limiters on them. With over 1000 hp available, why can I not get any rpms out of it. The props cannot be too big with that hp, so what do ya think???
The only changes from the dyno were ignition & headers. I am using 2" Lightning headers.
Fuel pressure stays at 7.5# w/1/2" fuel lines & with Aeromotive pumps & filters.
What's up here??? We are mystified!!
The only changes from the dyno were ignition & headers. I am using 2" Lightning headers.
Fuel pressure stays at 7.5# w/1/2" fuel lines & with Aeromotive pumps & filters.
What's up here??? We are mystified!!
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Blown or normally aspirated? What cams are you using? If they peak at 6700 rpm, they probably don't have much bottom end and you would need smaller props to get the rpm's up.
Post the engine specs and dyno numbers.
bl
Post the engine specs and dyno numbers.
bl
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Well, all I can say is the cam is a "secret" gring designed by my mechanic & ground by Crower Cams. Roller cam & hydraulic rollers. He has the same cams in his 29 Fountain & runs 30" props on his. He has no trouble running over 90 mph & comes on plane like a rocket! He does have standoff boxes though,
468 ci
roller cam
roller/hydraulic
Brodix heads,
single plane intakes
950 cfm (new carbs)
594 hp- I will have to find the dyno sheets again.... been awhile.
Bravo 1's 1.50 ratio
Bravo 1 26" props.......
I am running the same props on my 312 Formula with 454 Mag EFI's & it has no trouble pulling 4800-5000.... that with 385hp x2.... ???
468 ci
roller cam
roller/hydraulic
Brodix heads,
single plane intakes
950 cfm (new carbs)
594 hp- I will have to find the dyno sheets again.... been awhile.
Bravo 1's 1.50 ratio
Bravo 1 26" props.......
I am running the same props on my 312 Formula with 454 Mag EFI's & it has no trouble pulling 4800-5000.... that with 385hp x2.... ???
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Well, all I can say is the cam is a "secret" gring designed by my mechanic & ground by Crower Cams. Roller cam & hydraulic rollers. He has the same cams in his 29 Fountain & runs 30" props on his. He has no trouble running over 90 mph & comes on plane like a rocket! He does have standoff boxes though,
468 ci
roller cam
roller/hydraulic
Brodix heads,
single plane intakes
950 cfm (new carbs)
594 hp- I will have to find the dyno sheets again.... been awhile.
Bravo 1's 1.50 ratio
Bravo 1 26" props.......
I am running the same props on my 312 Formula with 454 Mag EFI's & it has no trouble pulling 4800-5000.... that with 385hp x2.... ???
468 ci
roller cam
roller/hydraulic
Brodix heads,
single plane intakes
950 cfm (new carbs)
594 hp- I will have to find the dyno sheets again.... been awhile.
Bravo 1's 1.50 ratio
Bravo 1 26" props.......
I am running the same props on my 312 Formula with 454 Mag EFI's & it has no trouble pulling 4800-5000.... that with 385hp x2.... ???
Can't help with the problem your having but your 312 Formula spins 30 pitch props becasue it has a 1.65 ratio drives. I had one and everyone of those I've ever seen/heard of had 1.65's.
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Ok, from the top...
The ml as1.5 drives, the ch ppsar on a 29 Fountain not the Formula.
The timing is set to 32 degrees. The carb linkage is opening all the way also. The plugs come out wet & black after running & idling. So it appears I am getting too much fuel BUT it is set as it was on the dyno... where it idled under load very well & plugs were dry.
Remember.... this is TWINS..... and both do the same thing. It's got us bewildered!!
The ml as1.5 drives, the ch ppsar on a 29 Fountain not the Formula.
The timing is set to 32 degrees. The carb linkage is opening all the way also. The plugs come out wet & black after running & idling. So it appears I am getting too much fuel BUT it is set as it was on the dyno... where it idled under load very well & plugs were dry.
Remember.... this is TWINS..... and both do the same thing. It's got us bewildered!!
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WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He used a "7" series box from MSD when on the dyno and I am using a "6" series marine box. Called MSD and they said the boxs act differently using the same distributor. Timing was was off!
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My user name is Blown Formula because my 312 Fastech Formula & my prior ride a 252 Formula were & are blown by Prochargers.
My Sonic about which we are speaking is normally aspirated, single 950cfm single plane intake. The timing has been checked more than once, the engine was "degreed" & indexed on the dampener so I know the marks are correct.
I am using late model Mercruiser HP500 ignition distributors & modules with the rev limiters removed. The engines pull nicely up to 3000 rpm (47-49mph on gps) & then no more!!
Frustrating to say the least!
My Sonic about which we are speaking is normally aspirated, single 950cfm single plane intake. The timing has been checked more than once, the engine was "degreed" & indexed on the dampener so I know the marks are correct.
I am using late model Mercruiser HP500 ignition distributors & modules with the rev limiters removed. The engines pull nicely up to 3000 rpm (47-49mph on gps) & then no more!!
Frustrating to say the least!