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Old 03-05-2008, 09:12 PM
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Seahawk, You said it happened twice. Was it the same cylinder or a neighboring one.

I think pressure checking your exhaust is in order. Its a good idea to do it every season on HP motors no matter what exhaust you have as a regular preventative measure.

As far as no rust, it is possible the exhaust is weeping and the heat evaporates the moisture away not allowing it to rust. The pits may be the result of them getting wet when hot.
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something else to look at is if you stop fast water can backwash into the tailpipe and enter the cyl. head and hit the valve, make sure your flappers are in great shape
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Old 03-06-2008, 09:28 AM
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HP 500s come with inconel exhaust valves. Were the valves possibly replaced with standard SS during a rebuild? With it being the center cylinders it sounds like you've got water getting in from the riser, dumping on hot exhaust valves. You absolutely need to use inconel exhaust valves in a performance engine.
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Originally Posted by MOBILEMERCMAN
Seahawk, You said it happened twice. Was it the same cylinder or a neighboring one.

I think pressure checking your exhaust is in order. Its a good idea to do it every season on HP motors no matter what exhaust you have as a regular preventative measure.

As far as no rust, it is possible the exhaust is weeping and the heat evaporates the moisture away not allowing it to rust. The pits may be the result of them getting wet when hot.

No not the same head but still one of the middle cylinders. Remember one broke at the top.

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Old 03-06-2008, 12:37 PM
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Phil, The center cylinders are most vulnerable to water. Do you still have the turbulator plates in place? The are designed to catch the condensation from the tail pieces. Definitely pressure check manifolds and tail pieces.
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What is a turbulator plate? Can someone post a pic!
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It is a plate that is located between the tail piece and the manifold. Often they are removed because it looks like a restrictor plate but it has an important function. It is similar to the gasket but has a smaller opening and curls up in center. On the gil its actually called a diffuser not turbulator sorry thats what its called on 496's

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Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
Dry to the transom is good- unless there's a leak in one. Could be a gasket- could be a pinhole. Some of the Gil's would erode badly at the port area if you lost water pressure. IIRC, there was a run of Merc's with CMI's on them that had exhaust issues- they lasted a couple seasons before springing leaks.

I would have the heads re-done with Manley or Ferrea stainless intakes and Inconel exhausts. Have the manifolds pressure tested to ensure you have no internal leaks.
Exactly! I trashed my center HP500 last year when the valve head decided to liberate from the stem. After careful inspection/scratching my head and help from friends, we found a leaking Gil after presure testing!
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Originally Posted by Thunder Boat
Exactly! I trashed my center HP500 last year when the valve head decided to liberate from the stem. After careful inspection/scratching my head and help from friends, we found a leaking Gil after presure testing!
Interesting locale Thunder Boat. Same as me basically. Where do you boat? I thought I was the only perf boating in the area.

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