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Old 03-31-2008, 05:15 PM
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Okay, so can you prove that riding in a Cig is "the nautical equivalent of Viagra"? On second thought I think that question is better left alone.

What kind of centers are required for the SM Gen III exhaust system?
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Originally Posted by KAAMA
\What kind of centers are required for the SM Gen III exhaust system?
34" or more on a tall deck configuration with merlin heads..

On a short deck I would guess around 33 or so...
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Originally Posted by Panther
34" or more on a tall deck configuration with merlin heads..

On a short deck I would guess around 33 or so...
Buddy of mine is Running tall deck 588's with the Gill BIG GUN manifolds. 35" centerline's with no more than a 1/2 if that between the manifolds.


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Originally Posted by Tinkerer
Panther - My engine was not damaged -- if you lost water flow at WOT it would be less than a minute before hot spots would be forming ( possible melt through ) on aluminum manifolds. Next to the header flange there isnt much water content and it would boil dry in a mater of seconds. and yes aluminum will transmit heat very well but not when it is 1/4 inch thick. If will hot spot.
What kind of manifold was it that you "melted"? The Gil's were very prone to having problems when overheating and I don't recommend them... Gil says they've cured it but I don't see them on boats anymore.

I've owned headers and manofolds over the years and had both overheat at one point or another and neither one of them ever had damage.. On the flip side I know others who "blued" their headers and they developed cracks in the primary tubes and cracks in the welds near the exhaust ports.

Back when I was working at the marina, I saw a failure rate between aluminum manifolds and stainless steel tubular headers which was at least 5 to 1, no sugar coating... Not trying to bash them, I own them, but those are the facts that I experienced and it hasn't changed much since I got out of the field.

Bottom line....if you overheat bad enough it's going to cause damage no matter what exhaust system you have.
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Originally Posted by cougarman
Buddy of mine is Running tall deck 588's with the Gill BIG GUN manifolds. 35" centerline's with no more than a 1/2 if that between the manifolds.


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If I had 35" centers I'd be running the SM GenIII's....please don't rub salt in an open wound!!!
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OK, I was all excited about going with DANA Fow Torque Manifolds until I called today to confirm they were direct replacements for my stock manifolds. They told me that the Min distance between centers is 34.5".... OUCH, my engines are 34"... I tried measuring at many locations and always came up with the same distance ( I did try one measurement on a diagnal and I had 36", just need to pry one engine over @ 3" at the front...) Oh well, I guess it is back to the ugly Stainless Marine Gen IIs (if they will fit).
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I have been looking to replace my Revolution Marine aluminum exhaust with either the Gil wet offshore or the Dana. I notice that the Gil, as well as other high end exhaust use multiple water inlets (manifold), whereas the Dana, Revolution, Imco, Stock, etc. only have one inlet on the bottom. Seems like the multi inlet would be better? Also, I know that the stock exhaust drains completely when you take off the single bottom hose, but I can't tell if other single inlet manifolds like the Revolutions drain completely.
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Also, looks like the Gils have some of the longest tailpipes - the water and exhaust mix way back from the riser section. Should help better with reversion than some other brands? Can anyone comment?
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Originally Posted by Inspector
OK, I was all excited about going with DANA Fow Torque Manifolds until I called today to confirm they were direct replacements for my stock manifolds. They told me that the Min distance between centers is 34.5".... OUCH, my engines are 34"... I tried measuring at many locations and always came up with the same distance ( I did try one measurement on a diagnal and I had 36", just need to pry one engine over @ 3" at the front...) Oh well, I guess it is back to the ugly Stainless Marine Gen IIs (if they will fit).
The revolution are a good product, have installed them on 3 boats, oldest set are 6 years, still looking good and moderate performance improvement over stock on a 500hp bbc. You cant beat the price.
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On my Revolutions, I must have received a really bad casting. All the threaded holes were poorly tapped, some of the studs that hold the risers on were drilled through to the water jacket and constantly leak, and the worst part is that exhaust ports are misaligned with the ports in the heads. I called them one that one year after I had purchased them and they said "yeah, sometimes the casting core moves". So much for smooth exhaust flow.
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