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Old 07-31-2008, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PARADOX
I'm sure this was asked a bunch of times before.
Best oil for 525's?
Gear lube for Bravo XR / speed master shorties?

Gear lube for Alpha 1 Gen I ?? Can I use the HP gear lube reccomended for bravos on the old Alpha?

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As far as I know HP can be used in any drive.

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Old 07-31-2008, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Rebel_Heart
Just curious - why the down and out on Royal Purple. It was recommended to use in my Bravo drive after I had the gears in the lower case cold processed. And, I thought Konrad uses in their drives? Thanks.
Because its not half the product it used to be. It used to be a very good product, but they cheapened it up, and still charge the same amount of money for it. If you don't like AMSOIL, then I would use MOBIL 1 or REDLINE. They are also good products.
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Old 08-01-2008, 05:03 PM
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The offshore (racing) guys I know that use Amsoil use this.

http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/svg.aspx

Very good product.

Amsoil Marine may be more for runabouts etc?

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Old 08-07-2008, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 07DominatorSS
Because its not half the product it used to be. It used to be a very good product, but they cheapened it up, and still charge the same amount of money for it. If you don't like AMSOIL, then I would use MOBIL 1 or REDLINE. They are also good products.

I switched to 15W-50 Motul 100% synthetic (non-pao). Synthetic from the ground up.

Amazing stuff. Engine just runs better.
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Originally Posted by Hydrocruiser
I switched to 15W-50 Motul 100% synthetic (non-pao). Synthetic from the ground up.

Amazing stuff. Engine just runs better.
Thats good to hear, their products are supposed to be very good also, however, at least where I am at, pretty damn expensive too. About $15/qt.
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Where are you buying the Motul? How long before an oil change?

Is there a difference in the hours you can run a conventional oil vs. an oil Motul?
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Originally Posted by Rebel_Heart
Where are you buying the Motul? How long before an oil change?

Is there a difference in the hours you can run a conventional oil vs. an oil Motul?

I get my motul from these guys. ABout $30.00 for 2.1 qt containers.

http://www.motorspotstore.com/moraoi.html


It is totally synthetic/non-pao...never was and never will have a drop of dinosaur juice in it.

They run cars at LeMans for 24hrs and most use it.

How far can you go before changing? I would say the usual 20 hrs and do an analysis before changing. I would bet if no water or gas in in the oil you can get out to 40-50 hrs.

Great stuff. I wish Mobil offered it's M-1R wich is what NASCAR uses. It is different than what we get off the shelf. Comes in drums I hear.
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What on earth is a non - pao..???
I'm do for an oil change in about 5-6 hours. After Destin I do it.. but still not sure what to use.
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Originally Posted by PARADOX
What on earth is a non - pao..???
I'm do for an oil change in about 5-6 hours. After Destin I do it.. but still not sure what to use.
Motul has it's begining form a testube in a lab and it's molecules put together from scratch.

A PAO is a well refined base that begins with a fossil fuel and the hydrocarbon backbone is modified and there are grades of "Synthetic PAO's" from Group III to Grp V.

M-1 V-Twin is GRP-V as are most of Amsoil's products that sell for $10/qt and Redline's as well. They are outstanding.

Motul is for the oil coniseur who wants something that is unique and a chemistry that holds up well under intense heat and intense duration.

A good oil is like what happens when you put things in boiling water. Carrots become soft....eggs when boiled become hard....but the GRP V's and Motul are like coffee....hotwater makes them perform and they are enjoyable because of their chemistry and engineering design.!

How's that for a brief laymen's explanation.

Try Motul 15W-50....it's worth a try for the fun of it!

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What on earth is a non - pao..???

Very simple answer, ...anything that is not a PAO

A PAO is a group IV base oil only, it is a synthesized hydrocarbon, the result of a chemical reaction.

GroupII and III are really Group I products, further processed.

Mobil 1 is a PAO Group IV product with esters, (Group V)

Mobil is the largest producer of Group IV PAO in the world, that is why it is used in Mobil 1 products, besides it is an outstanding base oil.

And Motul.....Group V

Ken

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