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DareDevil 01-11-2009 01:13 PM

NEED Mashine shop help !!!!!!!!!!
 
I need 8 studs ,grade 8 steel in half inch and 2-1/2 inches long with both sides corse thread (1inch each side) .

Cant find them any where ?!

Thanks

Noise Pollution 01-11-2009 01:51 PM

If its not for head studs, How about all thread. Its pretty tough.

598Boat 01-11-2009 01:51 PM

What size threads? ARP should make them. If not I will check somewhere else for you.

Steve_H 01-11-2009 02:12 PM

Threaded Rods and Studs
This product matches all of your selections.

Part Number: 90322A215 $9.56 Each
Material Type
Steel

Finish
Plain

Grade/Class
Grade 8

Type
Fully Threaded Rods and Studs

Steel Type
General Purpose Steel

Thread Direction
Right Hand Thread

Inch Thread Size
1/2"-13

Overall Length
36"

Rockwell Hardness
Minimum C33

Minimum Tensile Strength
150,000 psi

Thread Fit
Class 2A

Specifications Met
American Society for Testing and Materials (ASTM)

ASTM Specification
ASTM A354 BD

Notes
Length is measured from end to end.






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DareDevil 01-11-2009 02:50 PM

It needs to be both sides threadet and an1/2 ich in the center flat,,,getting bolted thru Aluminum at that spot !!!!!

Its for a Gimbal on a #5 ....and merc has them in stock for ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,unbelieveble $ 77 ,50 each !!!!!:eek:

I thought someone could help me for about 10 bucks each ?!
They are the short ones that mount the Gimbal to an Extension Box !!!!

THANKS FOR THE HELP !!!!!!

ezstriper 01-11-2009 03:28 PM

I second talking to arp..somebody is making them...

CcanDo 01-11-2009 09:05 PM

DareDevil - how many do you need? Also, are you sure you want steel, and not stainless? We probably have what you need depending on the quantity, but they will be coarse one end and fine the other - OEM Mercury. I will look tomorrow.

DareDevil 01-11-2009 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by CcanDo (Post 2775811)
DareDevil - how many do you need? Also, are you sure you want steel, and not stainless? We probably have what you need depending on the quantity, but they will be coarse one end and fine the other - OEM Mercury. I will look tomorrow.

I need 8 of them,,,,,,but yes they are grade 8 steel .
Stainless will not take the abuse on a #5 at the gimbal.
If you got 8 locknuts in stainless for the finethread ,,that be cool also .

But i will not pay merc prices at 77 bucks each ,just for the stud. They are out of there mind. LOL

Thanks. My # 941 592 5815

Pwrbt33 01-12-2009 07:22 AM

http://services.vehicle-web-services...FF%20BOX%20KIT

Follow this link! This sight is showing them for $24.99. You need to scroll down to find the part #16-43449. Its showing the website as Dollar Marine.

Hopefully this helps!!

BDARCHER 01-12-2009 07:55 AM

Im in the machine shop business. You need a rolled thread thread not a turned thread. I can turn them from 4140 or 4150chrome moly. A cut thread isnt as strong as a rolled thread. I can only cut the threads. Theres a shop that rolls studs in town. Ill check to see if their still in business.|
Bobby

DareDevil 01-12-2009 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by BDARCHER (Post 2775983)
Im in the machine shop business. You need a rolled thread thread not a turned thread. I can turn them from 4140 or 4150chrome moly. A cut thread isnt as strong as a rolled thread. I can only cut the threads. Theres a shop that rolls studs in town. Ill check to see if their still in business.|
Bobby

:eek: ???? I am confused !

Is this the reason wy the grade 8 stuff is that much more $ ?

And thanks for all the help ,,24 bucks is cheaper then 77 !! (on post above ).
Just can't imagine the price diffrences. Also whats a Class B8 M on a SS stud ????

Lmarth 01-12-2009 09:37 AM

I'm no expert on this,but I think Bdarcher has it right. I was always led to believe that all the really high quality bolts/studs have rolled threads to give them strength. That, and the material they're made from. I can't explain it here,but if you hold a rolled vs cut thread bolt side by side, you can see the difference in the root diameter of the bolt. For what it's worth....

DareDevil 01-12-2009 09:53 AM

Thanks,,,i will Probably by from the link shown,, OEM merc.
25 Bucks is ok,,,,i quess.
Unless CAT CAN DO has some for less ?!

Thanks for all your help ,,,,,,thats what OSO is about !!:ernaehrung004:

BDARCHER 01-12-2009 11:17 AM

Rolled threads are by turning the stud or rolling die. It compresses the metal as it forms the thread without removing steel. Like a wheel stud. A machine cut thread removes steel to make thread. Its still plenty strong to hold the drive on. Grade 8 is just higher carbon steel stronger. Wheel studs, allen head bolts are usually rolled 4150 steel heat treated. Dorman has a lot of double ended studs at Napa auto parts. Probley 1/2-13 on one end 1/2-20 fine thread on other grade 8. Would be around 5 bucks each.
Bobby
Bobby

598Boat 01-12-2009 04:22 PM

Hi! ARP makes a 1/2 x 2.750" stud with 1.00" of 1/2-13
thread on the bottom and 1.00" of 1/2-20 thread on the top portion
leaving .750 of non-threaded. part # is
AR2.750-1LB and is $5.18 each.
800-826-3045
They use rolled threads which are the strongest. They make some of the best studs and bolts. Real high tensile strength. If you want to you can e-mail me at [email protected] Charlie

DareDevil 01-13-2009 11:45 AM

598 ,THANKS MUCH.
ordered them today from ARP,,,thats the ones.

Thanks everybody else for helping.


Scott

FCMarine 01-13-2009 01:07 PM

Wow talk about a price difference. Dare did you get them for $5.18? If so that is ridiculous that merc would be charging $77. I mean arp still had to made profit off those but a $70 something dollar profit thats absurd.

DareDevil 01-13-2009 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by FCMarine (Post 2777012)
Wow talk about a price difference. Dare did you get them for $5.18? If so that is ridiculous that merc would be charging $77. I mean arp still had to made profit off those but a $70 something dollar profit thats absurd.

Yep,,,,5 and change each and better torge rating the Merc's grade 8 !!!!!!!

THANKS A R P !!!!!:ernaehrung004:

bill total incl shipping was 41.77 bucks for all 8 studs.:D

598Boat 01-13-2009 03:14 PM

I'm glad it helped you out! Hate to see someone get bent over. Merc doesn't make any of their stuff. OEM in marine doesn't mean it's going to be better. Cars yes, but different story. Most Merc stuff isn't that good. Not the strongest and you will over pay as this shows. Better stuff and technology out there. Their stuff works ok for stock when it was built. Look how long they stayed with points! lol Scott you do have to be careful with the stainless, but not all is bad. Most stainless that has cut threads galls once you put the nut on especially with nylock nuts. Rolled like ARP's won't do that though. Stainless is a really strong material. Good luck Charlie

johnnyboatman 01-13-2009 08:19 PM

and u wonder why so many companys are going broke, 77dollars or 5dollars u do the math:angry-smiley-038:


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