Oil Filter Update
 

I was asked to do an update...maybe a seperate thread will do it more justice.

Pictures are worth a thousand words.

The NAPA's are NAPA/WIX.

Looks like M-1 EP...Amsoil and Baldwin's have the most number of pleats. More pleats equals better filtration and flow usually. Wix/NAPA and K&N are not quite up there.

Amsoil has the best media along with the M-1 EP. Look at the Beefy relief valve on the Amsoil.

I think Amsoil EAO is the overall winner followed by M-1 EP and then Baldwin....K&N and Wix. All are of course good!

Baldwin has a black anti-drain valve that seems to be less reinforced. (make that cheap).

As always just my usual .02.

Compare these pictured to next page.

Hope these are helpful. Lots of great choices. An oil filter is as important as the oil you choose. So choose wisely!!

Notice the paper ends on these filters...The HP-1 Racing has crushed media...the other filter has a plastic tube in it and very few pleats...look at the quality of the black rubber anti-drain valves....compare to the previous pictures...which do you like better?

What's up with the strainer on the racing filter?

Check out the rubber anti-drain valves...vs. the Amsoil...

Great job. Now people can view and choose for themselves.

hydro,
A physical inspection is one method of comparison, but is any info available about the actual ability of each filter to remove engine wear particles and other contaminants from the oil?
Ben

Not really an apples to apples comparison. The 1714 NAPA (51714 Wix) application is for Fiat-Allis and Kobota and the Fram PH977A is for the older Ford truck engines. Not exactly a high performance, short oil change interval application. I have no complaints running Wix 51060R's.

:hitit:http://www.cfsco.net/raaponsplufi.html

A filter is considered nominally efficient at a certain micron level if it can remove 50 percent of particles that size. In other words, a filter that will consistently remove 50% of particles 20 microns or larger is nominally efficient at 20 microns. Engine wear begins with 10+ micron particles.

A filter is considered to achieve absolute filtration efficiency at a certain micron level if it can remove 98.7% of particles that size. So, if a filter can remove 98.7% of particles 20 microns or larger, it achieves absolute efficiency at that micron level.

Most off-the-shelf filters are based upon a cellulose fiber filtration media. Most of these filters are, at best, nominally efficient at 15 to 20 microns. They won't generally achieve absolute efficiency until particle sizes reach 30 microns or higher.

High efficiency oil filters have filtration media made of a combination of at least two of the following: glass, synthetic fibers and cellulose fibers. Those that use all three are generally the best in terms of filtration. Those that use only two will fall somewhere in between. The best of these high efficiency filters will achieve absolute efficiency down to about 10 microns and will be nominally efficient down to 5 microns or so.

This Wix Racing Filter is nomimally efficient at 61 microns...only for RACING where max flow (and comprimised filtration) is needed. It's a good racing filter...not for everyday use per the manufacturer...

Part Number: 51060R

UPC Number: 765809129269

Principal Application: Racing Applications Only
All Applications

Style: Spin-On Lube Filter

Service: Lube

Type: Full Flow

Media: Paper
Height: 5.170

Outer Diameter Top: 3.600

Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed

Thread Size: 13/16-16

By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: None

Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes

Max Flow Rate: 28 Gal/hr

Nominal Micron Rating: 61 ....not a filter for non-racing applications...

Gasket Diameters

Number O.D. I.D. Thk.

Below is a regular filter..non-racing.

Amsoil EaO:

50.0% @ 7 micron (nominal)
98.7% @ 15 microns
99.8% @ 20 microns

Instead of trapping all of the oil contaminants on the surface of a paper (cellulose) type filtration media, high efficiency oil filters have a depth type media which will trap contaminants throughout the entire filtration media. This, combined with the different type of materials used for the filtration media allows high efficiency oil filters to remove more and smaller particles without restricting oil flow - just as high efficiency foam air filters remove more and smaller particles without restricting air flow.

...hope the last couple posts helped you...need info on a specific filter besides the Amsoil/Wix Racing/M-1 ?

This thread needs the filter listings and numbers. Who has it? Bill R, I think posted it awhile ago. Doug

To keep the rocks (shrapnel) out in case of a catastrophe (engine failure) happening while in bypass mode? :eek:
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Could you compare the Amsoil and Mobil 1 filters? Always have run the Wix Racing filters. Thanks.

Wasn't the Fram HP6 like a 10 or 12 micron filter?

I have been running puralator for years now, no issues, tried a mobile 1 this spring...and the damn thing leaked where it was put together ??no high op either....Rob

so who knows what Amsoil filter # fits a 496HO?

Amsoil EaO is a bit ahead of M-1 which is a bit ahead of Pure-1

Wix is 7-19 microns nominal (50% efficient) depending on the filter.. per their website....

Pure-1 is a generally well regarded filter too by the way.

1-715-399-TECH (8324) between 8 a.m. and 5 p.m. Central Time.

Best thing to do is call!

Hydro, just curious, have you heard anything about the system 1 re-usable filters? I'm considering using one as a pre filter in front of an amsoil filter. Would you consider using one as the only filter for your engine?

Looks like they are high flow ..high performance filters available in..30/45/75 micron ratings.

As a Racing or prefilter I can see the logic...or on an engine that is so very hopped up that it needs this or something like a Wix Racing. Some engines just do....

What engines do you have?

A rather mild hydraulic roller 540, about 625 h.p. I was told by the builder that the system 1 was nice because it can easily be inspected for any debris from a bearing failure. You never have to by a filter again, since it is easily cleaned and reused.

system 1 is the ultimate as far as water separating fuel filters go.

Can't find an Amsoil filter that replaces a HP6 or wix 51222R ????:party-smiley-004:

The only drawback is the minimum 30 micron size which is probably nominal and 97% capture more like 50 micron. So a good racing filter no doubt.

You should check to see if the company has filter elements more the the neighborhood of 10-15 microns.



Here is how to open an oil filter easilly and safely.

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/OIL-FI...TTER,2618.html

Anybody do any testing with oil filter magnets, like Filter Mag?
I imagine they cant hurt anything, but how much do they really help?

The filter mags catch small "stuff". What is not clear to me is would the filter have caught it anyway? As you said....can't hurt.

Has anyone heard of a K&N 3002 filter failing. Had a customer lose an engine due to the media getting crushed internally. He checked with someone else and they had info.from Boost Power that they lost 2 engines on the dyno due to this. They said; use a Wix racing filter. This would have been avoided if he would have listened to the warning buzzer along with the oil pressure gauge, and just changed the filter. We could only figure it was from his older oil coolers having old dirt come out of them after a period of time running and breaking it down and flowing to the filter and clogging it. I told him he needed new coolers because of heat, wouldn't think after cleaning them that old dirt would break-down and flow out to the filter. How much oil temp can these filters stand?

http://www.knfilters.com/oilfilter.htm

This article (though on a Porsche) says if the oil temp is much over 210*F the oil will fry...probably much sooner than the oil filter wil.

http://www.elephantracing.com/techto...emperature.htm

K&N's look like good filters.

As far as max oil temps...

I see Mercury recently came out with a synthetic media oil filter for most of its engines now. I Wonder how they compare to the Amsoil EAO's I have been using?


Mercury Precision High Efficiency MerCruiser Oil Filter 858004K
Fits all Mercury MerCruiser/Mercury Inboard GM engines, except V-6 without remote oil filter
High efficiency, high performance synthetic media removes over 97% of oil contaminants versus 78% for conventional paper element filters

I think their previous filter was a "paper element filter"...:lolhit:


....we are on the right track with synthiteic oil and synthetic filter elements...actually we were ahead of the game a while back!

Boy, For me, ultimate filtration is for my daily drivers that see many, many miles. For my boat engines I want FLOW and lots of it. Just catch the rocks. I am hoping for 120 hours between teardowns, not 100,000 miles.

Just my .02 cents. :party-smiley-004:
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What type of engines?

Cant find filter replacement for WIX or Fram HP 6 !!!!!!

AMSOIL HELP ????????????????

If I am running 540s, 700 hp. Change the oil and filter once per year, 20-25 hours. Do you still recommend Amsoil or Mobil 1? Or, should I keep using the Wix Racing filter?

Planning on moving from racing Valvoline 40 to Mobil v-twin oil. If this makes a diffenence on filters? Thanks.

604 inch fords, naturally aspirated.

Swapping out HP6s at 10 hours and complete oil change at 20.

I am not criticizing your break down of filters at all. Just from my perspective, I want flow #1, Big stuff filtered #2, Little stuff #3.
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Here is what I have been finding out....

25% of folks use something like a Wix Racing 1060R/Fram Racing (especially on bigger engines).

25% go with the Mercury HP Racing

25% go with a filter that is basically a synthetic fiber 10 micron filter

25% go with an "off the shelf filter"...paper filter ...

I won't freshen for approximately 200 hours. Or, until I see a loss of power. I have about 50 hours on them now.

So you are saying stay with the Wix Racing Filter? Using in conjunction with Valvoline VR1 currently.

Wix Racing & V-Twin if you can spend the $$.

http://fram.com/oil-filters/xtended-guard.php

New filter...no info but the add.

Hydrocruiser, what do you recommend on the 700sci? I was told the Wix 57003R was the OEM for Mercury. They are $120 shipped for a case of 6 vs. $65 ea. from the dealer.

Mercury also recommends Kendall GT1 racing 20w50 in the 700sci and specifically says not to run a synthetic. Is the Kendall oil any good and why not run a snythetic?

Sounds like you have the right filter. If I had that engine I would compare oil pressures with the WixR and Amsoil Eao....if there was not a pressure drop I would personally use the EaO. That's just me... Kendall GT-1 Racing is a great oil.

Not sure why Merc does not use synthetics as many big engine builders do.

If the concern is that there is a myth? fact? that synthetics do not protect metal after
shutdown and corrosion may occur...motorcycle oils are extremely corrosion resistant.

It may be why many like M-1 V-Twin?

Wix filters
 

I have used the wix 57003R / with Kendall GT1 20w50 on my 2009 600 sci for 75hrs and no problems , I change oil every 15 hrs for cheap insurance .