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degree 10-17-2009 10:14 AM

Early Mach 1 Boats
 
My first time, guys. Anyone out there with the older Mach 1's? I have a 1987 27 footer w/twin 454's. Since Envision boats went out of business, I have no contacts for information on these boats.

GeeterB 10-17-2009 02:15 PM

is the name of the boat aquaholic?

phragle 10-18-2009 12:38 AM

shipfaced just sold one with twin 350's he had it a long time.

ezstriper 10-18-2009 08:05 AM

not sure on the 27's but was told years ago that the 22-23 was built from molds from chris crafts scorpion model....looked buying one in 86...Rob

GeeterB 10-18-2009 08:15 AM

I was told it was a splash of the old wellcraft/scarab s hull. I had a 27' with twin 454's 1987 with alphas. I had a blast with that boat when I had it. Lots of fun with very little trouble.

degree 10-20-2009 01:40 PM

Different hull
 
Bill Felt started Mach 1 Boats after being an officer in the Glasstex (Glasstek?) line. The hulls were his own design.

Mine is an '87 with twin 454's as well. I've had fun with it and it flys...:boat:

I'll be re-gauging it this winter with a set of Livorsi's. Can't wait.

myattitude 10-22-2009 05:30 PM

Older mach 1's were built by Felt Industries. Sold to Freedom Boats then finally to BAHA. I would have to say the Felt Ind boats were better. Had a condor that flew, beat most boats in its class ran a small block(built) with beefed up Alpha Drive. They are heavy but they cut waves like a hot knife though butter. I am considering buying another one. The only problem finding a clean well taken care of Mach 1.

DTD 10-22-2009 10:02 PM

Here you go:

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/boa/1433620336.html

http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/boa/1404783446.html

machoneer 09-04-2010 12:09 PM

Anyone looking for a super clean Mach 1
 
I have a near perfect 1989 27' Mach 1 Concorde for sale. Twin 350's. Alpha drives. Beautiful boat. It is located in upstate ny. Freshwater only. It is on the rochester ny craigslist if interested.

gcsprayjr 10-11-2010 04:50 AM

How Much?

machoneer 03-15-2011 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by machoneer (Post 3199794)
I have a near perfect 1989 27' Mach 1 Concorde for sale. Twin 350's. Alpha drives. Beautiful boat. It is located in upstate ny. Freshwater only. It is on the rochester ny craigslist if interested.

1989 Mach1 Concorde with twin 350's and alpha drives. On a trailer with many extras Asking $13500

machoneer 03-15-2011 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by gcsprayjr (Post 3227625)
How Much?

Asking $13500. 585-721-4903 if interested.

machoneer 03-15-2011 01:26 PM

Mach 1 Concorde for sale
 
1989 Concorde 27 ft for sale. Located in Upstate NY. Freshwater boat. Twin 350's with alpha drives. Very good shape. Comes on a trailer with a ton of extras. Asking $13500. Boat can be seen on ebay and the rochester ny craigslist.

rsimpson258 08-21-2011 12:55 PM

I have an 1989 Mach 1 MV2350 Condor. I don't know any info about the boat or the company. Do you have any info on the Mach 1 boats or where I can get some info?

gcsprayjr 08-27-2011 03:22 AM

You will not find a lot of information about Mach 1's of that vintage. There are still quite a few Mach 1 boats around, and some owners add information and will fill in bits and pieces.

From what I understand, the company was originally Glastec Industries, based in IL. From what I have read Glastec was one of the first boat builders to use fiberglass construction. Glastec was a respected builder. When the original owner decided to retire, the company was sold to Freedom Boats. Freedom Boats targeted the Mach 1 as a price point or entry level boat. The company and tooling was moved to Florida. Freedom Boats built the Mach 1 that I have which is a 1990 model. The first two letters in the hull id number are the state the boat was built in.

Somewhere around 1994 Freedom Boats went bankrupt and closed down. Baha boats (not Baja) in New Mexico bought the tooling and the rights to the name Mach 1, and built the boats as a preorder boat, each one on a custom basis. Under Baha, the quality of the Mach 1 was improved. Baha Boats is currently for sale.

As for the boats, they were entry level, but not poorly built. The hulls are hand laid fiberglass, and are very rugged. The boats are old school design, and have lots of plywood in the floor, seats, and interior. Not exactly poor construction, but not up to current standards either. Many boats built in the 80's had plywood floors. That is just how they were built. If left out in the weather they are prone to water damage and rot. Most of the ones that are still in service are still intact because they have been stored inside out of the weather.

They perform well, are nicely balanced, and have a hull that is of similiar design to a Wellcraft or a ChrisCraft of the same era. Most owners or former owners will tell you that you can beat them up pretty badly, and they will keep going anyway. If you do searches of boats for sale, you will find many variations of Mach 1 boats. It seems that they were built in just about every configuration.

Post some pictures of yours.

mach1magnum 02-18-2012 08:38 PM

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any other mach 1s out there mine is 1989 24 magnum

dbkski 02-19-2012 03:49 AM


Originally Posted by rsimpson258 (Post 3484622)
I have an 1989 Mach 1 MV2350 Condor. I don't know any info about the boat....

Well if you own one then you should know that Mach 1 should have
changed the name from Condor to Porpoise. :lolhit:


Originally Posted by gcsprayjr (Post 3489540)
You will not find a lot of information about Mach 1's of that vintage.

I searched the web and could not find much.


Originally Posted by gcsprayjr
...entry level boat
...not poorly built
...they are prone to water damage and rot
They perform well, are nicely balanced...

Yes!
Oh hell no. :(
Oh hell yes.
Decent speed but horribly balanced. Way too much bow rise on
take off and the aforementioned Condor "hop". That damn
porpoising drove me crazy.


Originally Posted by mach1magnum (Post 3621032)
any other mach 1s out there mine is 1989 24 magnum

I ran the Henry IL PR this Summer and a different Condor was there.
He must have had a 454 Mag or 502 Mag since he was running in
the mid 60's. I pulled up along side him, yes he was porpoising like
mad, we waved to each other, then I pulled away.
My old Condor is on the IL Fox Chain. I saw pictures of it last year.
It was a 1991 MV 2350 Condor 7.4L B1.

The Condor on the IL River.
http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...ski/Condor.jpg

mach1magnum 02-19-2012 06:26 AM

does anybody know the difference between condor and magnum?

dbkski 02-19-2012 02:52 PM

The Condor was the model MV2350. Magnum was the MV2450.
Condor was old school with a bolt on teak swim platform. Magnum
was the new style with a molded in one. I believe the Magnum was a
bit larger than the Condor even not counting it's swim platform. I
saw one at the dealer but never on the water so it was hard to gauge
it's size.

mach1magnum 02-19-2012 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by dbkski (Post 3621451)
The Condor was the model MV2350. Magnum was the MV2450.
Condor was old school with a bolt on teak swim platform. Magnum
was the new style with a molded in one. I believe the Magnum was a
bit larger than the Condor even not counting it's swim platform. I
saw one at the dealer but never on the water so it was hard to gauge
it's size.

thanks

tylermcclintock 03-20-2012 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by mach1magnum (Post 3621032)
any other mach 1s out there mine is 1989 24 magnum

I also have a 24 Magnum. Mine originally came with a 350 but previous owner swapped to 406 stroker.

I bought the boat last summer and it came with a brochure with every 1989 mach 1. So i can give a little information on 89s lol

jeff30 06-17-2012 09:02 PM

just bought an 89 mach 1 magnum, very clean. single OMC 460. its my first boat. looking fwd to some good times

jeff30 06-17-2012 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by mach1magnum (Post 3621032)
any other mach 1s out there mine is 1989 24 magnum

i own the same boat in green :)

wrench49 09-19-2014 07:29 PM

Does anyone know where the center of gravity is on a 1989 27 ft. mach 1 concorde with 2 454s and alphas

Realmc25 07-30-2018 07:21 PM

My 1991 mach 1 magnum.
 
24.5 1991 mach 1 magnum big block 454 bravo drive owned it for 20 years now


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