Question for Ray: Optional Lifter for Merc 496HO
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From: Delray Beach, FL
FYI the Crane lifters have an unshrouded roller versus the stock lifter's roller is fully shrouded by the lifter body. At max cam lift this roller slot in the Crane lifter body when at max cam lift creats a ~0.030" opening for oil pressure to escape from the lifter's oil galley.
With the stock GM lifters and cold oil I previously got 55 psi @760 rpm and 75 - 80 psi @ WOT. When the oil gets real hot after extended WOT running the oil pressure previously dropped down to 25 - 30 psi at idle and 50's at WOT with the stock lifters . Now I am getting 30 psi at idle. Assuming the same ~25 psi lower pressure at WOT I would now be only at 50-55 psi with cold oil and assuming similar pressure loss with hot oil it would be at 30 psi or lower at WOT. Not good.
With the stock GM lifters and cold oil I previously got 55 psi @760 rpm and 75 - 80 psi @ WOT. When the oil gets real hot after extended WOT running the oil pressure previously dropped down to 25 - 30 psi at idle and 50's at WOT with the stock lifters . Now I am getting 30 psi at idle. Assuming the same ~25 psi lower pressure at WOT I would now be only at 50-55 psi with cold oil and assuming similar pressure loss with hot oil it would be at 30 psi or lower at WOT. Not good.
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I know I get bashed sometimes for saying that not all "recreational engine builders' are ENGINE BUILDERS", but how many of you would perform your own brain surgery or give a go at building a computer chip??
No good professional engine builder can teach you everything you need to know to build a reliable endurance marine performance engine on the internet in a few posts! It takes us knowledgeable builders usually 20-30 years to learn most of what we need to know and we don't know it all!
Don't have enough time to go into exact technical reasons why we don't recommend any hydraulic roller lifter besides the stock GM big block hydraulic roller lifter or the Morel replacement. Most lifter issues come from other problems and not the lifters themselves, however some aftermarket hydraulic roller lifters and designs have problems and the results can be disasterous! You think they will warranty your loss because their lifter did not "GET APPLIED CORRECTLY!"
Watch your replacement camshafts base circle size. If it gets to much smaller than 1.200" it can put the lifter in a position where the loss of oil pressure can result, especially with cam valve lifts of .600 or more.
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
No good professional engine builder can teach you everything you need to know to build a reliable endurance marine performance engine on the internet in a few posts! It takes us knowledgeable builders usually 20-30 years to learn most of what we need to know and we don't know it all!
Don't have enough time to go into exact technical reasons why we don't recommend any hydraulic roller lifter besides the stock GM big block hydraulic roller lifter or the Morel replacement. Most lifter issues come from other problems and not the lifters themselves, however some aftermarket hydraulic roller lifters and designs have problems and the results can be disasterous! You think they will warranty your loss because their lifter did not "GET APPLIED CORRECTLY!"
Watch your replacement camshafts base circle size. If it gets to much smaller than 1.200" it can put the lifter in a position where the loss of oil pressure can result, especially with cam valve lifts of .600 or more.
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
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FYI the Crane lifters have an unshrouded roller versus the stock lifter's roller is fully shrouded by the lifter body. At max cam lift this roller slot in the Crane lifter body when at max cam lift creats a ~0.030" opening for oil pressure to escape from the lifter's oil galley.
With the stock GM lifters and cold oil I previously got 55 psi @760 rpm and 75 - 80 psi @ WOT. When the oil gets real hot after extended WOT running the oil pressure previously dropped down to 25 - 30 psi at idle and 50's at WOT with the stock lifters . Now I am getting 30 psi at idle. Assuming the same ~25 psi lower pressure at WOT I would now be only at 50-55 psi with cold oil and assuming similar pressure loss with hot oil it would be at 30 psi or lower at WOT. Not good.
With the stock GM lifters and cold oil I previously got 55 psi @760 rpm and 75 - 80 psi @ WOT. When the oil gets real hot after extended WOT running the oil pressure previously dropped down to 25 - 30 psi at idle and 50's at WOT with the stock lifters . Now I am getting 30 psi at idle. Assuming the same ~25 psi lower pressure at WOT I would now be only at 50-55 psi with cold oil and assuming similar pressure loss with hot oil it would be at 30 psi or lower at WOT. Not good.
I'm putting the stock lifters back in the engine and sending the Crane lifters back to Crane to confirm they are the right 26535 lifter.
Last edited by Rage; 05-02-2010 at 03:21 PM.



