454 vs 489
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Ok iam sure this question will be hard to answer but iam just trying to get an idea if I should just rebuild my 454 or build a stroked/bored 454 to a 489..
What HP and TQ numbers are gained from going from say a 454 built with good heads, cam, intake to a bored/stroked 489 also with good heads, cam, intake..
Any numbers guys? Just want to see if its worth it? Any advice?
Erik
What HP and TQ numbers are gained from going from say a 454 built with good heads, cam, intake to a bored/stroked 489 also with good heads, cam, intake..
Any numbers guys? Just want to see if its worth it? Any advice?
Erik
Use Scat I know where you can get some Twisted EAGLE cranks from a lot of torque and the load of a boat.
I plan on going to a 540-565 later so I will just take my stuff from my 470's and use it on them.
"?" can you take a stroker kit from the same GEN 454 and put it in the same GEN 502????? and just replace the pistons?
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"?" can you take a stroker kit from the same GEN 454 and put it in the same GEN 502????? and just replace the pistons?[/QUOTE]
As long as it's a 1 piece main seal I don't see why not!! 454 and 502 cranks are the same.
"?" can you take a stroker kit from the same GEN 454 and put it in the same GEN 502????? and just replace the pistons?[/QUOTE]
As long as it's a 1 piece main seal I don't see why not!! 454 and 502 cranks are the same.
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I was almost in the same boat as you, but I had Merc 420's. Instead of going with a stroker kit cause I already had forged internals I spent my money on good heads and pistons. I put a set of fully ported and Wedged JimV Merlin heads on and made 590HP and 561TQ @ 9.5:1. If you already have good heads and need forged internals I would definitely go stroker.
Use Scat I know where you can get some Twisted EAGLE cranks from a lot of torque and the load of a boat.
I plan on going to a 540-565 later so I will just take my stuff from my 470's and use it on them.
"?" can you take a stroker kit from the same GEN 454 and put it in the same GEN 502????? and just replace the pistons?
Use Scat I know where you can get some Twisted EAGLE cranks from a lot of torque and the load of a boat.
I plan on going to a 540-565 later so I will just take my stuff from my 470's and use it on them.
"?" can you take a stroker kit from the same GEN 454 and put it in the same GEN 502????? and just replace the pistons?
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I was looking to do my home work regarding my build as well. Currently I have a fresh 496's but wondered if in the near distant future if I would be able to get 502 blks and use the old rotating assm. with the exception of having to get new pistons. I have Mark 1V currently so what 502 blks would I need?
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They make mk4 502's but they are very rare. All after market blocks use a two piece rear main, so your mk 4 rotating assembly will work good with a dart or merlin block. You can also get a adapter to run a mk4 rotating assembly in a gen5/6 GM block, it worked fine for me.
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Scat has a better reputation for accuracy. Still needs to be checked carefully.
Oops, used the wifes computer without changing the log in.
Oops, used the wifes computer without changing the log in.
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I dont know what year they made the mk 4, 502 blocks. There was a set of motors built with them on sale here not that long ago. I think they are very few and far between, because they went to the 1 piece rear main seal very soon into producing the 502. I am sure they would cost you more then a set of dart or merlin blocks anyway. Using the adapters to put a two piece rear main crank in a one piece rear main block is a good alternative. The oiling setup on the gen6 blocks is improved over the mk4 blocks from what I understand. The aftermarket blocks also take advantage or the oiling upgrades too.