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Originally Posted by Allicat38
(Post 3079710)
Pressure test the water system on the engine. I Had the problem of an intake gasket leaking water into the oil galley very slowly one time. If it does not hold pressure you definitly have a leak somewhere. Also oil coolers and parts like that could do it too.
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Originally Posted by 35fountain
(Post 3079705)
The pcv connects from one valve cover to the intake manifold or spacer under the carb..not to the flame arrester
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Originally Posted by cloudmaster_321
(Post 3079813)
Same thing. Both are essentially pulling a vacuum on the breather line. Only difference with the pcv, is you will be building pressure in the crankcase to whatever the pressure is on the pcv before it pops and let's the pressure by. If you just had hollow plastic elbows in the valve cover before, i don't see how a pcv valve would make any benefit to reducing condensation. Bottom line, the engine has to breathe.
I agree with what you saying about ( same thing)..except I think its more efficient for the pcv to be connected directly to the intake or carb. The other side of the engine has a plastic elbow in the valve cover and a 5/8 " hose connects to a tab mounted on the flame arrester..How much suction is actually pulling from that hose which sits 1/4" to a 1/2" away from the arrester and has the rest of the arrester open to the engine conpartments free air.. In my opinion (not much) At least with the pcv directly connected its definately pulling from the valve cover, crankcase, etc |
Originally Posted by rssteiny
(Post 3079685)
,, where is the oil tstats on 500hp carb motors.
There is no positive flow with the elbows only. PCV is a Positive flow, as in the name. The turns of air within the engine is much higher with a pcv valve, hence the moisture is removed. BT :cool: |
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The Pcv valve is metered to allow a certain flow in accordance to the blowby (usually calculated by displacement and compression) generated by the engine over most of the rpm range. It allways sucks. The only time it doesn't is if there is a backfire and then it acts like a check valve preventing gases from the intake from going into the crankcase. Because it always sucks, it is also designed to meter the flow according to the engine demands at different rpm, at the same time hopefully removing the blowby vapors, but yet not sucking so much as to pull oil into the intake. At idle (high vacuum) the tapered metering valve is pulled to the right into the seat restricting the amount of vapor pulled. At WOT (low vacuum) the tapered metering valve is at the left allowing a full flow. At cruise or light load the valve is to the right being restrictive, but to a lesser degree than idle. It also varies under different load conditions just as the intake vacuum does and meters the vapors according to that vacuum and also the amount of blowby produced. There is also a saftey net built into the system. Under extreme rpm or loads. the fresh air intake tube acts as a crude but temporary breather when the blowby pressures overcome the pcv negative pressure (for various reasons) and allow the blowby gases to go up the tube thru a small filter and be reintrudiced thru the carb for reburning. Some of the oil condenses before the small filter and some ends up puddling in the bottom of the air filter housing in a more sever case. When the excessive blowby returns to normal the pcv valve takes over again. I'm sure you've seen it in worn out engines. As you can see, it is not just a PCV valve, but a precise metering valve that is matched closely to your specific engine. Since the conversion from the draft tube system to the closed pcv system, there has been a remarkable decrease in the creamy foam found in engines and more importantly, failures from sludge (results of acidic vapors and moisture) buildup. |
Originally Posted by rssteiny
(Post 3079685)
Ihad the same exact problem last seaon on both my 500hps, but my oil temp never gets above 190 even hard running, so i assum it is condensation,, where is the oil tstats on 500hp carb motors.
35fountain, i just had new valve springs put on my 500HP's and now I have milky oil on dipstick and under valve covers and didnt have that problem prior to that work. Comp test shows good, pressure test manifolds shows good...I have no idea what to do.. sounds like i may have the same problem you have, but dont' understand why it didnt do it before and now it does.. Dont know which way to turn... |
Have not fixed it yet, same for me prior to redoing the heads port work and all new valve train, and cams, lifters , chain gears, last winter,never had the problem this past summer it was there just in oil cap holes and breather hoses to flame arrester, nothing on dip stick or in oil. I think my problem is my motors never get above 190 oil temp and is not hot enough to cook out the condensation.
Where is the oil t stats on the 500 hp carb motors and can they be changed. |
Originally Posted by rssteiny
(Post 3080167)
Have not fixed it yet, same for me prior to redoing the heads port work and all new valve train, and cams, lifters , chain gears, last winter,never had the problem this past summer it was there just in oil cap holes and breather hoses to flame arrester, nothing on dip stick or in oil. I think my problem is my motors never get above 190 oil temp and is not hot enough to cook out the condensation.
Where is the oil t stats on the 500 hp carb motors and can they be changed. |
Originally Posted by TubzzFormula 271
(Post 3080158)
rssteiny, what was your problem with milky oil and how did you fix it.
35fountain, i just had new valve springs put on my 500HP's and now I have milky oil on dipstick and under valve covers and didnt have that problem prior to that work. Comp test shows good, pressure test manifolds shows good...I have no idea what to do.. sounds like i may have the same problem you have, but dont' understand why it didnt do it before and now it does.. Dont know which way to turn... Did you change anything...The Hp500 has a pcv at the base of the intake behind the carb.Does yours have pcv's ??..Did they remove your heads? to change the springs..Head gasket ?? |
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Originally Posted by rssteiny
(Post 3080167)
Have not fixed it yet, same for me prior to redoing the heads port work and all new valve train, and cams, lifters , chain gears, last winter,never had the problem this past summer it was there just in oil cap holes and breather hoses to flame arrester, nothing on dip stick or in oil. I think my problem is my motors never get above 190 oil temp and is not hot enough to cook out the condensation.
Where is the oil t stats on the 500 hp carb motors and can they be changed.
Originally Posted by 35fountain
(Post 3080168)
The oil thermostats are inside the square mounting where your oil filter is..your oil hoses are also there, Should be 4 hoses....My engines are not 500's they are 509 gen IV..I do not have oil thermostats.. My oil temp is above 200 cruising and higher at wot I hope this helps..Looks like you can change the tstat
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