575SCI idle issue
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I know this issue has a lot of threads on it and i have read most if not all of them.
Here's the issue i have a 575sci it has about 50hrs on it from the last complete rebuild, After a timing issue and a bad cap the thing runs strong. But resonantly when i would put it in neutral the RPM will jump up to 1000/1100 and then slowly settle back down. For me this makes it hard to park and hate that i have to sit and wait for it so can put in gear.
I replaced the TPS and the ICA motor and still no luck, i have no scanner to check the volts or the ica count. i took it in to have the shop hook it up and give me some info. They called me back and said "we called mercury racing and they said this a known issue with a single ICA motor so we need to send the ECM in and have them reprogram it for 2 ICA's and the we may need to buy a new wiring harness to handle 2 ICA's or rewire the motor. and then said that other than that we will could try to trouble shot it @$110 an hour.
I asked what the ICA count was and he said that it didn’t matter because the ECM controls it and you cannot adjust it.
So i ask Steve Zuckerman (OSO member) and he gave me a few things to try and i will when i get it back today.
Has anyone out there fixed the issue and if so how?, without buying a different blower, new ignition system or reprograming the ECM?
Mike
Here's the issue i have a 575sci it has about 50hrs on it from the last complete rebuild, After a timing issue and a bad cap the thing runs strong. But resonantly when i would put it in neutral the RPM will jump up to 1000/1100 and then slowly settle back down. For me this makes it hard to park and hate that i have to sit and wait for it so can put in gear.
I replaced the TPS and the ICA motor and still no luck, i have no scanner to check the volts or the ica count. i took it in to have the shop hook it up and give me some info. They called me back and said "we called mercury racing and they said this a known issue with a single ICA motor so we need to send the ECM in and have them reprogram it for 2 ICA's and the we may need to buy a new wiring harness to handle 2 ICA's or rewire the motor. and then said that other than that we will could try to trouble shot it @$110 an hour.
I asked what the ICA count was and he said that it didn’t matter because the ECM controls it and you cannot adjust it.
So i ask Steve Zuckerman (OSO member) and he gave me a few things to try and i will when i get it back today.
Has anyone out there fixed the issue and if so how?, without buying a different blower, new ignition system or reprograming the ECM?
Mike
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From: ankeny,ia.
Mine would occasionally idle weird ( both of them at times)
I overhauled the engines, did some mod's thus had
to have the ECM's modified, they no longer do any of that
goofy sh!t.
Dean Gellner did mine.
A friend of mine has a pair that are dual IAC's,
he's experienced an occasional idle problem too.
I overhauled the engines, did some mod's thus had
to have the ECM's modified, they no longer do any of that
goofy sh!t.
Dean Gellner did mine.
A friend of mine has a pair that are dual IAC's,
he's experienced an occasional idle problem too.
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From: MI
I have had the initial high idle at startup but never when going back to neutral. Sounds like a blade is sticking open.
Use a feeler guage on the back throttle body to measure the blade opening. I know there is a spec on it somewhere and to adjust that you need to drill out a plug.
Maybe the back blades are open too far and front iac is struggling to bring the idle down. Or vacuum leak?
Use a feeler guage on the back throttle body to measure the blade opening. I know there is a spec on it somewhere and to adjust that you need to drill out a plug.
Maybe the back blades are open too far and front iac is struggling to bring the idle down. Or vacuum leak?
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My whippled hp500efi occasionaly does the same thing. Efi engines are programed to burn excess fuel in the intake track before resting at idle. If it lasts more than a couple of seconds you prob. have a problem. Got to get it scanned to know for sure otherwise its a crap shoot. Why did your mechanic call mercury?He should have scanned it, sounds like he does not have one or he would have scanned it. I would find a mechanic that is not relying on what merc. says,rather what the scanner says.
Last edited by Greenkeeper; 08-02-2010 at 03:37 PM.
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Thanks and keep them coming i am heading out to get the boat now. they do have a scanner and he will send me the printout. remember i have just one ICA on mine.
I am not sure why he called them stumped?
I saw a thread about setting the gap and i will look in to it.
Also there was a service bulletin on how to fix this issue by adjusting the throttle plates.....somewhere?
thanks all for the info
I am not sure why he called them stumped?
I saw a thread about setting the gap and i will look in to it.
Also there was a service bulletin on how to fix this issue by adjusting the throttle plates.....somewhere?
thanks all for the info
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From: Between A Womans Leggs in IL
Thanks and keep them coming i am heading out to get the boat now. they do have a scanner and he will send me the printout. remember i have just one ICA on mine.
I am not sure why he called them stumped?
I saw a thread about setting the gap and i will look in to it.
Also there was a service bulletin on how to fix this issue by adjusting the throttle plates.....somewhere?
thanks all for the info
I am not sure why he called them stumped?
I saw a thread about setting the gap and i will look in to it.
Also there was a service bulletin on how to fix this issue by adjusting the throttle plates.....somewhere?
thanks all for the info
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here is a good link put in your year and find services bulletins
http://www.ishopmarine.com/ishop/jsp...smBcatList.jsp
http://www.ishopmarine.com/ishop/jsp...smBcatList.jsp



