For those of you who are wanting to stay up to date, STA-BIL's website has an ethanol 411 section which sheds more light on the ever changing subject.

http://www.goldeagle.com/engine_care/411onethanol.aspx

Do you happen to know which Lk. St. Clair marinas sell pure gas, and which sell blended gas?

I know Beacon Cove Marina, Belle Maer Harbor, and Anchor Bay Marina for sure and I believe Algonac Harbor has switched back to pure gas too. I am sure there are a few others but these are the ones I fuel at because of where I boat mainly.

These are the pure gas marinas...........I am not sure of the blended since the pumps are not marked which should be a law in this state, I guess you will have to ask when you fuel up.

In most cases the crap is mandated by locallity...is where we are there is NO strait gas available....so basiclly screwed !!

As a fuel supplier I can tell you that your fuel supplier CAN still get non ethanol fuel. We still sell it to country clubs and marinas in our area. Most large terminals do still carry it and as of right now NON of the majors in our area are switching to the 15% yet. They are going to continue to carry the 10% blend. As far as the commnets earlier that premium and plus don't have ethanol in them that is not correct. The facilities that are selling ethanol blended fuel are bringing in 84.5 octane fuel for regular(at least its 84.5 in the east. Different altitudes have different octane ratings required). Using the old regular as mid grade and the old mid grade as premium. pure NEAT (non ethanol)90 Octane fuel is actually harder to come by. When you blend in ethanol they gain the 2 octane points needed to sell the fuel and they can buy it at a cheaper price than the old stuff. Ethanol fuel is about the refiners making more money because they are getting a tax break for the ethanol they sell and they are producing a cheaper crude oil. Some of this may fizzle out over time. The biggest reason for ethanol use is all these refiners built a ton of large ethanol production facilities and they overestimated how much they needed. Now refiners are left with a facility that is producing more ethanol than they can sell. Supply and demand chart sums that part up; now they have an over production of product and they have to sell it cheaper than they anticipated. No one is ready for the ethanol boom and suppliers will fight it until they beleive most of the market is driving 2007 or newer vehicles.

If I can't find non blended gas I throw in several gallons of 100LL Avgas. (For those of you that don't know, LL stands for "low lead" which is actually far from the truth since it has more lead than the old leaded car gas.) It seems to work good in my boat and other vehicles without cats. The only problem is that Avgas is getting so expensive it takes the fun out of it.

Not sure about where you live but we have ethanol in 93 here in Indiana and Michigan... boats are suffering and so are sleds. Have to run a combative such as starbrite star tron fuel treatment in order to save critical motor parts from grenading. Ski-Doo owners can vouch for this... especially those up north where the winter blend is worse... this sucks!

wow thats not cool, the info i got about us not having it here, was from a supplier. :confused::confused: so i guess i'm lost.

Exactly! I don't really believe there is straight gas out there anymore. I have a feeling these places are feeding you lines of :bsflag:

This stuff is a new product out by AMSOIL and is going to sell like hotcakes this winter due to the ethanol issues in sleds!

http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/aqs.aspx