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drgnrydr 11-17-2010 07:36 PM

fram fuel filter for 525
 
looking around for the fuel filter for my 525 I have been amazed of the cost & no cross reference for it . I found the fram g3727 is the exact replacement size wise . its a 10 micron filter . Anyone know if the mercuriser is a 10, 50 or 100 micron filter ?

I think the filter is one in the same, the fram filter had a recall & so did the mercruiser .

price on the fram is 10$ cheapest i have found the mercruiser is 35 all the way up to 65

FIXX 11-17-2010 08:07 PM

Fixx
 

Originally Posted by drgnrydr (Post 3255436)
looking around for the fuel filter for my 525 I have been amazed of the cost & no cross reference for it . I found the fram g3727 is the exact replacement size wise . its a 10 micron filter . Anyone know if the mercuriser is a 10, 50 or 100 micron filter ?

I think the filter is one in the same, the fram filter had a recall & so did the mercruiser .

price on the fram is 10$ cheapest i have found the mercruiser is 35 all the way up to 65

Wix # 33481,,4 micron filter.

Sydwayz 11-18-2010 02:00 AM

I wouldn't even use Fram for my winter storage filter.

Go with the Wix. You can get them at Napa, and if you buy a handful they will knock the price down a few bucks.

Airpacker 11-18-2010 06:51 AM

ac delco gf652f about 12 bucks at any ac delco or gm store

drgnrydr 11-18-2010 07:33 AM

thanks for the quick responces >

I perfer wix filters also but they did not list a cross reference of the merc pn ..

kinda suprised that the wix is a just 4 mircron . the fram has more than twice the filtration

Baja_342 11-18-2010 07:54 AM

I buy by the case and split with a buddy. You can get the prices down to about $6-7. Check EBay.

28cigarettess 11-18-2010 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by drgnrydr (Post 3255697)
thanks for the quick responces >

I perfer wix filters also but they did not list a cross reference of the merc pn ..

kinda suprised that the wix is a just 4 mircron . the fram has more than twice the filtration

I think that you may have that backwards. I believe they mean it will filter down to 4 microns which is smaller than 10 microns.

Sydwayz 11-18-2010 08:14 AM

But the Wix is the only one with the anti-drainback valve IIRC; preventing dry start up.

drgnrydr 11-18-2010 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by 28cigarettess (Post 3255722)
I think that you may have that backwards. I believe they mean it will filter down to 4 microns which is smaller than 10 microns.


Not trying to be a smart ass but you should not comment on what you dont know . It can be very misleading ..

Read up on micron sizing ! you are 100% wrong .. :lolhit:

FIXX 11-18-2010 05:54 PM

Fixx
 

Originally Posted by drgnrydr (Post 3256165)
Not trying to be a smart ass but you should not comment on what you dont know . It can be very misleading ..

Read up on micron sizing ! you are 100% wrong .. :lolhit:

the way i gather it is the filter will trap down to a 4 size micron spec of dirt,with that being said fram will trap a 10 micton piece of dirt..4 is smaller then 10 so i would have to say wrong...

read and look at the chart..:)

http://www.tpub.com/content/fc/14104/css/14104_153.htm

US1 Fountain 11-18-2010 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 3255729)
But the Wix is the only one with the anti-drainback valve IIRC; preventing dry start up.

In the fuel filters too?

cheech 11-18-2010 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by drgnrydr (Post 3256165)
Not trying to be a smart ass but you should not comment on what you dont know . It can be very misleading ..

Read up on micron sizing ! you are 100% wrong .. :lolhit:

Explain to us about micron sizing.
http://www.filtercouncil.org/techdata/tsbs/89-5R3.pdf

wjb21ndtown 11-18-2010 09:16 PM

If you're thinking of replacing with a cheap fram filter, do yourself a favor and just bypass the thing. If their fuel filters are anything like their oil filters, they're pure junk.

You're talking about saving $25 on a $25,000 motor... it's not worth it.

Sydwayz 11-18-2010 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by US1 Fountain (Post 3256351)
In the fuel filters too?

WOW!! I really blew that one.
My bad gents.
I only use Mercury fuel filters.

Airpacker 11-19-2010 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 3256458)
WOW!! I really blew that one.
My bad gents.
I only use Mercury fuel filters.

Do you mean AC Delco filters in a Mercury Marine box ? :)

outriggers 11-19-2010 08:45 AM

I just cut open a Fram HP-4 racing filter. Looked like a well made filter to me. I will save this HP-4 and cut open a Wix and compare them. Doug

drgnrydr 11-19-2010 05:23 PM

I cut the merc filter to inspect & the glue on the pleated seams had came apart , so it would have been getting to some extent unfilterd fuel . the pleats were not even overlapped they were butted together & glued



Sorry about my comment on the micron sizing , I was mislead ...

28cigarettess 11-19-2010 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by drgnrydr (Post 3256165)
Not trying to be a smart ass but you should not comment on what you dont know . It can be very misleading ..

Read up on micron sizing ! you are 100% wrong .. :lolhit:



the way i gather it is the filter will trap down to a 4 size micron spec of dirt,with that being said fram will trap a 10 micton piece of dirt..4 is smaller then 10 so i would have to say wrong...

read and look at the chart..

http://www.tpub.com/content/fc/14104/css/14104_153.htm


Explain to us about micron sizing.
http://www.filtercouncil.org/techdata/tsbs/89-5R3.pdf


Hey drgn rydr......Thanks for schooling me. Am I still 100% wrong. Just trying to help and you jump on my sh#t. :lolhit: Besides...............I'm not the one talking about using a POS Fram filter in the first place:party-smiley-004:

drgnrydr 11-19-2010 06:49 PM

[QUOTE=28cigarettess;3257036]the way i gather it is the filter will trap down to a 4 size micron spec of dirt,with that being said fram will trap a 10 micton piece of dirt..4 is smaller then 10 so i would have to say wrong...

read and look at the chart..

http://www.tpub.com/content/fc/14104/css/14104_153.htm


Explain to us about micron sizing.
http://www.filtercouncil.org/techdata/tsbs/89-5R3.pdf


Hey I can take a beating ! :angry-smiley-038:

Irishtornado 11-19-2010 07:21 PM

Which filter are you guys referring to? Little metal one on back of intake or the screw on fuel/water seperator?

US1 Fountain 11-19-2010 08:13 PM

I thought these were more of a fuel/water seperator than a fuel filter.

Irishtornado 11-19-2010 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by US1 Fountain (Post 3257111)
I thought these were more of a fuel/water seperator than a fuel filter.

I didn't check #'s why I was asking. I've got a small inline one on back of intake on mine it's strictly fuel filter. If he's paying 35.00 for a fuel water seperator I'm in the wrong business. I pay about 6.00 a piece for Merc.

MILD THUNDER 11-23-2010 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by outriggers (Post 3256626)
I just cut open a Fram HP-4 racing filter. Looked like a well made filter to me. I will save this HP-4 and cut open a Wix and compare them. Doug

Fram HP series filters are ok. Basic fram filters are junk. But the original question was about fuel filters.

outriggers 11-23-2010 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 3259500)
Fram HP series filters are ok. Basic fram filters are junk. But the original question was about fuel filters.

I realize that, but some of the posts seem to question the quality of all Fram products.

Back4More 11-24-2010 09:03 PM

I never knew White Bloods Cells are so much larger than the Red ones....

Hydrocruiser 11-24-2010 09:13 PM

High Performance engines need the proper balance of flow to filtration.

A racing engine in a race needs a full flow filter to trap "bowling balls". Four micron filters in this application will restrict oil flow and toast an engine. Yes...lots of "orange cans" on racing engines for this reason as we all know.

An expensive Mercury engine deserves an oil filter that filters and flows well I think.

K&N/WIX/NAPA-GOLD and of course the Mercury Racing all have what it takes and very importantly have enclosures that will not likely burst due to a poor shell or too much internal filter pressure...yes it happens..... and can ruin an engine.

High Performance engines and microfiltration and potential oil starvation must at all costs be avoided. It will ruin your day!

My .02


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