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wjb21ndtown 11-30-2010 03:37 PM

496 Gm 8.1
 
I'm familiar with the traditional BBC motor, but I know nothing of the GM 8.1. I can pick up a couple of long blocks fairly cheap, but

1) are they worth anything?

2) can you add any sort of traditional performance parts to them (ignition, cam, carb., etc.), and

3) how do the truck lower ends compare to the marine versions (any differences at all in the lower end, and if so, what are they)?


They seem like a nightmare to stay away from, needing a bunch of electronics and being stuck with the traditional efi systems that they come with, but i wanted to get a run down on them before I pass them by.

03 SONIC 11-30-2010 03:52 PM

Dart has some new heads that look like they make good power.

Back4More 11-30-2010 04:29 PM

Discontinued...cast rotating assy...junk.

Baja_man 11-30-2010 06:35 PM

A few different "kits" for them......

http://www.raylarengine.com/

makes one and I believe Tyler Crockett has done some research and has some heads and cam available for them.

Elite Marine 11-30-2010 06:41 PM

Pistons are junk too.

wjb21ndtown 12-01-2010 06:13 AM

Hahaha... So much love for these motors!!!


What I was more or less looking for were answers as to whether or not I had to run the factory coil pack ignitions, if there are aftermarket carbed intake manifolds available (there's no way in hell I'm paying $2k + for an after market EFI system... I'd rather just build a 540), and whether the GM lower ends (truck lower ends) used forged parts or the same cast junk.


I think I have most of my answers. I talked to people at JE and Wisco and they can make me pretty much anything I want. From what I gather the JE forged pistons are better than the Wiscos, but both are a significant upgrade from stock. For the cost of the forged upgrade kit I can buy a 502 block and a 540 forged stroker kit. Seems silly to me... And with these 8.1 blocks being discontinued there isn't likely going to be anything coming down the pike on them...

TylerCrockett 12-01-2010 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by wjb21ndtown (Post 3264271)
Hahaha... So much love for these motors!!!


What I was more or less looking for were answers as to whether or not I had to run the factory coil pack ignitions, if there are aftermarket carbed intake manifolds available (there's no way in hell I'm paying $2k + for an after market EFI system... I'd rather just build a 540), and whether the GM lower ends (truck lower ends) used forged parts or the same cast junk.


I think I have most of my answers. I talked to people at JE and Wisco and they can make me pretty much anything I want. From what I gather the JE forged pistons are better than the Wiscos, but both are a significant upgrade from stock. For the cost of the forged upgrade kit I can buy a 502 block and a 540 forged stroker kit. Seems silly to me... And with these 8.1 blocks being discontinued there isn't likely going to be anything coming down the pike on them...

Dart has heads for the 8.1 they also are making a duel plane and a single plane manifold so you can use a carburator on or it will have access to put a throttlebody on and use injectors. Dart also will have 4.375, 4.500, and 4.750 stroke cranks availible also.

ezstriper 12-01-2010 06:56 AM

plane and simple...not worth the aggrivation for any real performance application...


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