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RaggedEdge 12-07-2010 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by Mr Gadgets (Post 3267379)
Now the track record for the Imco SCX gears is much better. So why cant Merc sell the same type of gear??

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My ignorance showing here but,

Will the Imco SCX gears fit into the Merc Bravo XR case?

SDFever 12-07-2010 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by RaggedEdge (Post 3269464)
My ignorance showing here but,

Will the Imco SCX gears fit into the Merc Bravo XR case?

No sir. Only the SC gears will fit cause they "are" the XR gears..

No ignorance. Asking is usually how you make a decision or learn something.

Thanks

RaggedEdge 12-07-2010 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by SDFever (Post 3269471)
No sir. Only the SC gears will fit cause they "are" the XR gears..

No ignorance. Asking is usually how you make a decision or learn something.

Thanks



So then are the Imco SC gears any "better" than the Merc XR's?

Or are we talking the same chit in a different package?

fossil fuel 12-08-2010 07:02 AM

XZ gears have a much finer helical cut face. The setup needs to be perfect for long life. The XR is a straight cut similar to gears used in a tractor. They are much more forgiving on the setup.....

Philm 12-08-2010 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by RaggedEdge (Post 3269511)
So then are the Imco SC gears any "better" than the Merc XR's?

Or are we talking the same chit in a different package?

No, the SC gears are XR gears, just in an Imco SC case.

The SCX on the other hand uses totally new gears, much larger, that wont fit in an SC or XR case.

John the Drive Man 12-08-2010 08:53 AM

What I see in your pictures, is just the nature of the beast. It does happen, but I can say not very often, I've been building outdrives for 30 some years, And Bravos ever since they've been out. I have had very little trouble with XR gears. And I've done many of them on all sizes of boats from 700hp and down. And very very little failure. They are a fussy gear that needs to realy be set properly. There is no room for error. I've got large boats with 700 plus hp and getting 400 hours and better on them. A lot of my customers are Poker Run customers. So they run hard.

SDFever 12-08-2010 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by RaggedEdge (Post 3269511)
So then are the Imco SC gears any "better" than the Merc XR's?

Or are we talking the same chit in a different package?

Imco wanted to use a different gear but it's just not cost effective to find the source etc.

So they built a drive using the same gear that is still a little "better" than the XR depending on how you look at it.

There are NO cathodics so you're screwed in salt but the case is designed way better in my opinion. It moves a much higher volume of oil around. The cooling shower is built in and distributed nice and even. Finally, the case is thicker in areas and is built to lower the amount of tower flex and movement so everything is better "contained".

I've been to their facility a couple times and took some tours. It's a super nice product but mainly for fresh water use.

Philm 12-08-2010 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by John the Drive Man (Post 3269661)
What I see in your pictures, is just the nature of the beast. It does happen, but I can say not very often, I've been building outdrives for 30 some years, And Bravos ever since they've been out. I have had very little trouble with XR gears. And I've done many of them on all sizes of boats from 700hp and down. And very very little failure. They are a fussy gear that needs to realy be set properly. There is no room for error. I've got large boats with 700 plus hp and getting 400 hours and better on them. A lot of my customers are Poker Run customers. So they run hard.

Doesnt happen that often? Seems like every drive guy I talk to, including Mr. Gadgets, says that the new XR gears are garbage, no matter how they are set up. The face hardness wears off when running any kind of power through them and once that happens, its into the soft metal. Game Over.

Here is my lower driven gear with 59 hours at 800hp and 25 hours at 750hp. Pushing a relatively light boat at around 4600lbs.

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/v...9/IMG_0718.jpg

JaayTeee 12-08-2010 12:39 PM

I too have a growing collection of junk
XR gearsets, from my own boat and a friends.

I also originally thought that it was driver error or
set up issues also( before I had a boat with XR's) but it's
not.

Seems like it's a 50-50 chance on getting a good set.

I equate it to laying down sod over dirt that is
littered with junk.

It looks good initially, but pretty soon the uglyness
starts showing up:eek:

I've had them pit out ( like the pictures), crack and shear the cone off the gear, and the fun one, break a tooth off and junk out the case.:eek:

If and when the next set crap out, I'll probably switch
to X gears

A.O. Razor 12-08-2010 01:20 PM

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