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Baja_man 01-07-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SDFever (Post 3291074)
That's really kinda high (12K) if you're just getting forged bottom end and using same heads etc..


I thought the same thing.....for $12K you could get the Raylar BCK-103 (With Heads)....have the work done at about any shop of your choice and be close to getting Dana headers.....might be closer to $14K. But that route your at ~550 HP.....175 more than now.

SDFever 01-07-2011 12:00 PM

Hey
 
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Originally Posted by JMS322 (Post 3291127)
Cheap
Reliable
Fast

You can only pick 2, and you WON'T have the 3rd.

I love it! Let's start a new engine shop and have a "numbered" menu just like a fast food restaurant.

Call it "Pick Two".

Uh, yeah I'd like cheap and fast please. Okay, That'll be $3200 plus another 15K after it blows up. Please pull around to the next window....

LOL!! :evilb:

thirdchildhood 01-07-2011 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Wet-N-Wild (Post 3291121)
SO WHAT YOUR SAYING IS THE BEST BET IS TO JUST GET A LABBED PROP AND CALL IT DONE TILL I'M READY TO TARE THE MOTER DOWN AND REBUILD IT??

Even the labbed prop may get you no gain depending on what you are running now. The first thing that netted me a real performance gain was the Imco -2" shorty lower and the four blade (yes, labbed by Brett) prop that it required. That gave me 3 mph. Are you able to do your own work? A cam swap isn't that hard. You don't have to pull the engine if you are willing to cut a small hole in the front of the engine room and put a patch over it. I'm not sure what has to be done to the ECU. This will get you about 3 mph. Nothing comes cheap. Sometimes I wish I had stuck with outboards. You should be able to do the cam, ECU, prop and shorty (if right for your boat) for under $5,000 and pick up about 5 mph. I think that is money well spent.

SDFever 01-07-2011 12:20 PM

The very first thing to do is aquire an accurate means of seeing "real" engine speeds (if you haven't already).

That nice livorsi tach on your dash is not accurate enough for propping based on my experience.

Keith Atlanta 01-07-2011 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by thirdchildhood (Post 3291157)
Even the labbed prop may get you no gain depending on what you are running now. The first thing that netted me a real performance gain was the Imco -2" shorty lower and the four blade (yes, labbed by Brett) prop that it required. That gave me 3 mph. Are you able to do your own work? A cam swap isn't that hard. You don't have to pull the engine if you are willing to cut a small hole in the front of the engine room and put a patch over it. I'm not sure what has to be done to the ECU. This will get you about 3 mph. Nothing comes cheap. Sometimes I wish I had stuck with outboards. You should be able to do the cam, ECU, prop and shorty (if right for your boat) for under $5,000 and pick up about 5 mph. I think that is money well spent.

I agree, you wont break the sound barrier but it is money well spent on a Mag model 496. I dont have a velocity but I assume they have an aggressive x dimension already. If it does, skip the shorty and get a pair of Dana's

There, we just spent $5000 for you - aint OSO grand!

low_psi 01-07-2011 04:17 PM

The Velocity 260 comes from the factory with a Labbed 26p Bravo Prop. I bought a Hydromotive Quad 4 for mine and noticed a 1-2 mph gain on top end, but lost cruiing efficency with the family loaded in the boat.... And seemed to pick up a nasty chine walk Around 65. I went back to the stock Bravo prop that was supplied by Velocity. Just some experience from a Velocity 260 owner w/496 mag....

If your 260 doesn't have trim tabs, that is where I would spend the money. It made a complete difference in my boat as I was able to maintain higher speeds without having to back it down becasue it was flying out of the water....

low_psi 01-07-2011 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SDFever (Post 3291168)
The very first thing to do is aquire an accurate means of seeing "real" engine speeds (if you haven't already).

That nice livorsi tach on your dash is not accurate enough for propping based on my experience.

Very True, my Tach shows to be about 300 rpm off at idle. We verified this by having it hocked up to a diagonistic computer while at idle. Who knows how much it is off up higher in the Revs.

low_psi 01-07-2011 04:24 PM

I can spell decent, it's my tyoping skills that need work :lolhit:

zx14k 01-07-2011 04:35 PM

back in 2001 i buy a new baja 272 with a 375 HP,in 2002 i put a HO cam and a new HO ecm.best top speed=375 HP=62, 425HP=66.4 all GPS with the same mirage 23+.i still have the boat with over 600 hrs never had a problem.cant remember the cost of the parts (around 2000.00 i think)very easy job to do with the shop manual.i now run the boat with a 23 rev 4 lost is about 1 MPH but the boat is lot more fun to drive everywere else.

007joe 01-07-2011 05:24 PM

I added tabs a couple years ago and I have a labbed 28 from the factory as well as a labbed 26 (I believe) I tried on it, the 28 is excellent and I have seen high 60's with the boat in this configuration. I was just tossing some ideas around, and know with the HO in a test this boat ran upper 70's. I would just like to be able to break that 70 mark regularly... and by low budget I was figuring $1000-$2000.... Thanks for all the replies :drink:


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