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Rage 01-07-2011 06:32 PM

How much money are you actually willing / capable of spending on the engine? Figure out a REAL number of dollars and everyone can give you realistic guidance including me. I have been through three incremental upgrades starting with a stock 496HO and have made of plenty of expensive mistakes along the way. I have lessons I would be glad to share. Give a $ number so everyone can focus on what makes sense. The Velocity hull has a big pad that responds well to + hp.

CAB 01-07-2011 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by Wet-N-Wild (Post 3290839)
What brand of exhaust did you go with?? Did you pick up any MPH with the prop change??

Stainless Marine

thirdchildhood 01-07-2011 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by 007joe (Post 3291385)
I was figuring $1000-$2000

Dig deeper. Check under the sofa cushions....:signs069:

007joe 01-07-2011 07:22 PM

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNsH6FUaElQ&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]
Maybe I should stick it out another year...
I think I need a bigger, faster boat...

But $2000 is all I would be willing to go I can handle the work so just figuring part.. probably better off holding out and upgrading the boat and all....

thirdchildhood 01-07-2011 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by 007joe (Post 3291471)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNsH6FUaElQ&feature=related
Maybe I should stick it out another year...
I think I need a bigger, faster boat...

But $2000 is all I would be willing to go I can handle the work so just figuring part.. probably better off holding out and upgrading the boat and all....

I don't know what the cam and gasket set would cost and ECU flash. You might be able to do that for around $2,000 and at least get up to a 496 HO. That's if you do it yourself. Speed is expensive. Reliable speed is even more expensive (but cheaper in the long run). I put about 40g into my little Donzi. Combined with the purchase price of 55g that's around $95,000 in a 22' boat. I deserve it though ;). Again, don't waste money on the exhaust. Yours flows plenty good for up to 425 hp.

You don't need a bigger boat. You need bigger power and drive and steering if it isn't full hydraulic.

thirdchildhood 01-07-2011 07:36 PM

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Rage 01-07-2011 07:37 PM

I missed your $1000-$2000 avaiulable expenditure estimate on first read. For that, upgrading to the 496HO seems the best bet. That is a cam and ECU upgrade. Look/advertise for a used 496HO cam on OSO or buy new. A new ECU is ~$1500but Dustin Whipple is licensed by Mercury (he is the only one so liscenced) to modify the Mercury PCM555 ECM program. His fee is $800. $400 of that goes to Mercury to unlock your ECU. I do not know for sure since I started with a 496HO but I would think he could reflash your ECU to a 498HO. Call him at Whipple Superchargers.

If you find extra dollars the Dana Flow Torque Exhaust will give you ~2x extra hp with wet exhaust on a 496HO for $2500. Their add says something like 47hp increase on the 496HO but that is with dry exhaust. The CMI Sport Tubes (~$5000) claim like 6x hp increase on the 496HO but that is also with dry exhaust. With wet exhaust the CMI's are only like ~5hp more than the Dana's. Google 'Full Throttle Marine' (Bob Lloyd's web site article 'Myth Busting') for the actual 496HO wet exhaust test data comparison of the Dana Torque Flow vs the CMI Sport Tube exhaust hp.

If you decide to spend more there are obviously other options.

Wet-N-Wild 01-07-2011 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by SDFever (Post 3291120)
Sorry, didn't mean to rub you wrong. I assumed the caps were pointed at me regarding the price comment.

But keep in mind, if you get heads for that price you most likely will find that the intake will be the new bottle neck as the flow just "doesn't flow".

SORRY I ALWAYS WRITE IN CAPS. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR INPUT. WELL THE ENGINE WORK WILL HAVE TO WAIT TILL I GET THE BOAT PAID OFF. THE BOAT RUNS GREAT NOW SO I'LL JUST ENJOY IT FOR NOW:)

Wet-N-Wild 01-07-2011 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by Baja_man (Post 3291135)
I thought the same thing.....for $12K you could get the Raylar BCK-103 (With Heads)....have the work done at about any shop of your choice and be close to getting Dana headers.....might be closer to $14K. But that route your at ~550 HP.....175 more than now.

THEN ADD THE WHIPPLE:)

Wet-N-Wild 01-07-2011 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by SDFever (Post 3291137)
I love it! Let's start a new engine shop and have a "numbered" menu just like a fast food restaurant.

Call it "Pick Two".

Uh, yeah I'd like cheap and fast please. Okay, That'll be $3200 plus another 15K after it blows up. Please pull around to the next window....

LOL!! :evilb:

LOL!!! THAT IS GREAT


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