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caldera 10-14-2017 07:36 PM

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veloc410 10-14-2017 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by caldera (Post 4587959)

broke a rod or wrist pin then rod hit and broke cam. You said you lost half of you oil.. is there a hole in side of pan o block somewhere

caldera 10-14-2017 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by veloc410 (Post 4587960)
broke a rod or wrist pin then rod hit and broke cam. You said you lost half of you oil.. is there a hole in side of pan o block somewhere

Oil come out from the deepstick housing. There isn't hole around block or in pan.

Try to pull out rest engine tomorrow. Going to rebuild it.

veloc410 10-14-2017 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by veloc410 (Post 4587960)
broke a rod or wrist pin then rod hit and broke cam. You said you lost half of you oil.. is there a hole in side of pan o block somewhere

By th looks of the metal on on your cam where it's broke. It looks like it's been cracks for a while. It looks dark thru most of it then light. .if the piston are all moving when you turn it over by hand then the rods are still connected

veloc410 10-14-2017 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by caldera (Post 4587954)
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Im not sure if anybody ever seen broken camshaft... Gear is in perfect condition...

Cylinder heads are okey but noy sure about crankshaft...

Any ideas?

that cam has been cracked for a while look at the color of the broken face .if it just happened it would not be dark. How on earth did you get that piece out. Dist.hole? It must have still been in place. Was ot still in place and just broken??

caldera 10-14-2017 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by veloc410 (Post 4587962)
By th looks of the metal on on your cam where it's broke. It looks like it's been cracks for a while. It looks dark thru most of it then light. .if the piston are all moving when you turn it over by hand then the rods are still connected

It come out by itself when i disconnect transmission and coupler. Banded camshaft plug found under transmission.

Do u know mashine shop in NY? Also how much is block and cylinder headers alignment?

veloc410 10-14-2017 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by caldera (Post 4587964)
It come out by itself when i disconnect transmission and coupler. Banded camshaft plug found under transmission.

Do u know mashine shop in NY? Also how much is block and cylinder headers alignment?

What!! Holy CRAP. Ok rear cam plug got pushed out then piece made it's way between flywheel and fell into bellhousing. Might have a broken block at rear. At very least flywhl damage. And crank flange too. Maybe your one lucky dude. Your going to find out when you pull ot out

veloc410 10-14-2017 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by caldera (Post 4587964)
It come out by itself when i disconnect transmission and coupler. Banded camshaft plug found under transmission.

Do u know mashine shop in NY? Also how much is block and cylinder headers alignment?

Better pull it out first see of there is any major damage. Might be easier to order short blocks . I betting that piece did damage when it exited the block. If you sty5with flat tappet cam. Have someone run that engine before it's reinstalled. Sometimes the cams don't work harder properly and it destroys lifters, cam, also puts metal thru the engine. I always use roller cams

caldera 10-14-2017 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by veloc410 (Post 4587965)
What!! Holy CRAP. Ok rear cam plug got pushed out then piece made it's way between flywheel and fell into bellhousing. Might have a broken block at rear. At very least flywhl damage. And crank flange too. Maybe your one lucky dude. Your going to find out when you pull ot out

Exactly...

Camshaft was broked long time ago.. I agree with U. Maybe factory defect. Never now. Hopefully block is good. Cant find hole at thia time. Is it buy / sell department on this forum?


Lifters close to the broken side were loose or out from the housing.

caldera 10-14-2017 08:38 PM

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Cylinder head

caldera 10-14-2017 08:45 PM

When i disconnect wires from this engine cant start the other one. I never had twin engine experience. Maybe this one was primary so that's why cut out electricity. Batteries are good. Just interior lights are working. Any ideas?

mike tkach 10-14-2017 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by veloc410 (Post 4587963)
that cam has been cracked for a while look at the color of the broken face .if it just happened it would not be dark. How on earth did you get that piece out. Dist.hole? It must have still been in place. Was ot still in place and just broken??

i disagree with you,r color statement,if you drop a brand new iron core camshaft on the concrete floor and brake it this is what it will look like.

veloc410 10-14-2017 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 4587972)
i disagree with you,r color statement,if you drop a brand new iron core camshaft on the concrete floor and brake it this is what it will look like.

🤔🤔maybe. But he did state that the lifters were loose and I don't think the dist. could do that . What do yo think happened.? He hasnt mentioned whether it turns over by hand or if the piston are all moving. Like I said earlier, broken rod?? No much anything else could have done that. W don't have full pic yet . But he needs some help. New long block , bolt on old accessories and drop it in. Not gping to be simple fix.👍

caldera 10-14-2017 09:09 PM

Which one is mine long ​​​​​​or short block? Im confused already..

Pistons are good. When i turned crank they all moved.

veloc410 10-14-2017 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by caldera (Post 4587976)
Which one is mine long ​​​​​​or short block? Im confused already..

Pistons are good. When i turned crank they all moved.

You don't know what's wrong or what damage has been done. Pull it out . I bet cam hole at back is broke out. Anyway it might be easier and only cost a 300 more to by long block. You were talki nh about rebuilding just by a long block

veloc410 10-14-2017 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by caldera (Post 4587976)
Which one is mine long ​​​​​​or short block? Im confused already..

Pistons are good. When i turned crank they all moved.

You don't know what's wrong or what damage has been done. Pull it out . I bet cam hole at back is broke out. Anyway it might be easier and only cost a 300 more to by long block. You were talki nh about rebuilding just by a long block. Remanufactured

caldera 10-14-2017 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by veloc410 (Post 4587979)
You don't know what's wrong or what damage has been done. Pull it out . I bet cam hole at back is broke out. Anyway it might be easier and only cost a 300 more to by long block. You were talki nh about rebuilding just by a long block. Remanufactured

Standard rotation long block?

veloc410 10-14-2017 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by caldera (Post 4587982)
Standard rotation long block?

what year is it. Do some research. Counter rotating props, transmissions. Better ask around and yes those are small block chevys

caldera 10-14-2017 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by veloc410 (Post 4587983)
what year is it. Do some research. Counter rotating props, transmissions. Better ask around

Thats why i hate to replace block.. New engines require electrical fuel pumps and also different type manifolds or cooling systems..

veloc410 10-14-2017 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by caldera (Post 4587984)
Thats why i hate to replace block.. New engines require electrical fuel pumps and also different type manifolds or cooling systems..

what year is it . I saw flat tappet cam with carburetor. Those aren't expensive. Every one has them Google it. Even summit racing equipment

veloc410 10-14-2017 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by caldera (Post 4587984)
Thats why i hate to replace block.. New engines require electrical fuel pumps and also different type manifolds or cooling systems..

Jasper remaned engines has good prices ive heard.. i imagine around 1900 2000 for lpng block 260 horse. Cam and all assembled

caldera 10-14-2017 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by veloc410 (Post 4587987)
Jasper remaned engines has good prices ive heard.. i imagine around 1900 2000 for lpng block 260 horse. Cam and all assembled

Text the link please.

motor 10-15-2017 05:42 AM

Do some research before you buy a Jasper. I'm not their biggest fan. Check reviews

SB 10-15-2017 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by motor (Post 4588001)
Do some research before you buy a Jasper. I'm not their biggest fan. Check reviews

Me neither. Just two experiences, both reman small blocks, stripped head bolt holes, incorrectly installed permacoils in other head bolt holes, lower end noises, etc,etc. If you can't build a decent small block (easiest motor there is to build/reman) and them not taking any blame + them putting blame on you, than you are nothing in my eyes.

Just my small opinion based on relatively small experience.

caldera 10-15-2017 06:39 AM

How much is engine rebuild kit and mashine shop work all together? Anybody knows? Any mashine shop in NYC?

veloc410 10-15-2017 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by caldera (Post 4588005)
How much is engine rebuild kit and mashine shop work all together? Anybody knows? Any mashine shop in NYC?

If these guys have had bad experiences with jasper then find someone else. Summit racing equipment has quite a few long blocks. For about 2000. I bought my 2 short blocks from Tri star engines . They came with warranty and shipping was very reasonable. Didn't have to wait long either and mine were not stock engines. Think they are in Wisconsin. I don't know what machine shops are near you but by the way this thread has gone, It sounds like you would better off with a crate engine ,short or long block. You could have your heads requalified and bolt then back on . Just Google it you have 350 Chevy they are easy to find. Then look for reviews on the company. Even the machine shops make mistakes. Make sure you get brass or stainless freeze and pipe plugs. You can switch the pipe plugs yourself. If they aren't anti corrosive. Get your engine out first and acess damage first

caldera 10-15-2017 03:46 PM

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Total lost. Broken camshaft, pistons, block too also damaged crankshaft....

I need a new engine. I will post serial number, maybe someone knows where i can find same one.

caldera 10-15-2017 03:48 PM

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caldera 10-15-2017 03:51 PM

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caldera 10-15-2017 03:52 PM

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caldera 10-15-2017 03:54 PM

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dereknkathy 10-15-2017 04:11 PM

Damn. I missed a couple of days of fun... ok, Is there a label on front of transmission that says rotation with arrow on it? What was on the front of the cam, timing chain or gear? A short block is the engine without heads. A long block is engine with rebuilt heads included. Take your heads. Lay them on either side with exhaust and then intake ports up. Fill ports with water. Any come pouring out thru valves? If not, heads are probably good enough to use, but could always use a refresh. Now, boat season is about over anyway. You live in New York? And this boat is on land in New York? Can it spend the winter where it is? I think not rushing to stick something in there cheap-quick is a better way to go. If the boat can't stay the winter, how far is the marina you call home from where it is now?

caldera 10-15-2017 04:26 PM

Derek,
I have to check trans rotation

Chain with gear as always

I need a new freshwater cooling engine. (The second engine is same like this one. They come with cooling tanks with green antifreeze, even transmission uses for cooling)

I know that boat season is over. Yes i leave in NY, Brooklyn. I have reserved winter parking lot in marina close to my house. ( im parked in another marina right now, boat is in water)

Going to find alt engine to fix everything until snow.

dereknkathy 10-15-2017 04:36 PM

How far of a tow to get to your Marina? Do you know anybody else with a boat big enough to tow it there? Can your Marina pull engines and put them in? Another option. Have this Purina pull it out of the water and put it on somebody's truck and haul it to your Marina. Because this place probably isn't going to want to let you leave it sit there tied to their dock for a couple of weeks.

dereknkathy 10-15-2017 04:37 PM

Do you think you could get it there on one engine if you got the second engine started? Cuz that's just chasing down battery cables that got unhooked. Does either engine have a power steering pump on it? And if so which one? By the way, since it has a timing chain, it is a standard rotation motor with a standard rotation camshaft. You don't have to worry about the opposite rotation stuff. If it was an opposite rotation engine, it would have to have a gear drive to keep the camshaft turning in the standard Direction because of the distributor gear and the oil pump still has to turn in the original Direction. So all opposite rotation motors have a Gear Drive instead of a timing chain.

caldera 10-15-2017 05:27 PM

Derek,

Im good with Marina.

My mistake there was only gear connection between the shafts. There is no chain.

caldera 10-15-2017 05:42 PM

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I found this block close to my area. They asking $75 for it.

Camshaft/crankshaft, timing chain or gear is on the place. It spins very easily. They have cylinder heads and pistons too.

I will call in jasper for information tomorrow.

dereknkathy 10-15-2017 05:49 PM

Ok, you need an opposite rotation cam. This IS the opposite rotation engine. Can you get a pic of the timing gears? Are they ok? You can not run any cam you get with a standard rotation engine. And I don't think JB Weld or Crazy Glue on the broken cam will work. Found one on ebay. Not saying you have to buy it, but if I can find one in 5 minutes, it is a good thing. Ebay item number ​​​​​​​252814638889 I will post a link in a few, can't do it with this phone. Just put that number in ebay search box.

caldera 10-15-2017 06:46 PM

MY ENGINE IS GARBAGE except cylinder heads, timing gears etc.

Im not going to glue camshaft or something else.

Im telling u that i found a used block with camshaft, crankshaft, flywheel and timing gears or chain (not sure which one because there is cover on it) also they are giving me cylinder headers and pistons without rings.

All this for $75 but i need machine shop and new kit. That's all.

caldera 10-15-2017 06:57 PM


I record the video so u can see.​​​​​​


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