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Derek,
Can u assemble engine if i bring u block and all necessary parts? Give me your contact info so we can talk about price. |
Originally Posted by caldera
(Post 4588076)
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Total lost. Broken camshaft, pistons, block too also damaged crankshaft.... I need a new engine. I will post serial number, maybe someone knows where i can find same one. |
I have installed dozens of Jasper engines in cars, FedEx trucks and boats. I even put one in my mothers boat a couple of years ago. Have never had a complaint or a warranty claim. I believe they are probably the best stock rebuilder out there.
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Originally Posted by caldera
(Post 4588076)
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Total lost. Broken camshaft, pistons, block too also damaged crankshaft.... I need a new engine. I will post serial number, maybe someone knows where i can find same one. |
Originally Posted by Baja Rooster
(Post 4588161)
JFC! Sorry to see that. What's the collective guess as to what broke first?
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ok, there are 350 short blocks on ebay 670 to 1k. at 1k he can get with correct reverse cam. these are bulk rebuilders in texas and tenn. Mabbco in tyler tex,. wholesale engines in dallas, and cyl head and engine rebuilding in athens Tenn. these are 90 day war, which means NO warranty. and 150 to 250 shipping at a guess. anybody have any feedback on them? or would he be better going to rebuilders around him for a little bit more, some say 3 yr 100k warranty, but as soon as you say boat they say NO warranty, but he can look the guy who built it in the eye and drive home with it. of course I just gave away (200 bucks) a good 350 I stared at in my garage for years a couple months ago. anybody got a good 350 gathering dust in the garage close enough to Brooklyn? or know a new York area builder he can trust?
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then there is radley chebby dealer. NEW GM goodwrench engine 1674 free shipping. then he has to buy cam kit to reverse it. so roughly 2k for new from GM.
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I bet you did not run aground. I bet this motor just popped and it felt so bad you thought you ran aground. Because digging your prop into a little bit of mud is not going to make two connecting rods snap and break the camshaft. Motors usually kill themselves. They don't need a lot of outside help.
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Originally Posted by caldera
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http://s018.radikal.ru/i526/1710/e3/a0ea71d4a6df.jpg
Im not sure if anybody ever seen broken camshaft... Cylinder heads are okey but noy sure about crankshaft... Any ideas? |
Originally Posted by caldera
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It looks might of got some water in the cylinders and hydrolocked and broke the rods.
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After some research, looks like CCW is standard rotation. So this is definitely the opposite rotation engine. Now, are the oil drilling in the crankshaft the same? And do the Pistons have to go in the other way for any reason either the offset on the rod or the oil spurt whole or anything like that? Or can you just spin a standard motor backwards with the backwards camshaft?
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If this a reverse rotation motor with a gear to gear timing set, you need a standard rotation camshaft. The camshaft need to turn standard rotation for the oil pump to operate in the correct rotation.
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Originally Posted by mike tkach
(Post 4588162)
did you cut the rod,s off of the crank with a torch?
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Originally Posted by dereknkathy
(Post 4588192)
now, these are the exhaust lobes for 8 and 7? did they do 4-7 swap on reverse rotation engines? because this is 8 and 7 right next to each other. my old small block cam has them all but 180 degrees apart.
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Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy
(Post 4588218)
That thing got HOT...................oil starved ??
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Originally Posted by tbanzer
(Post 4588215)
If this a reverse rotation motor with a gear to gear timing set, you need a standard rotation camshaft. The camshaft need to turn standard rotation for the oil pump to operate in the correct rotation.
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Originally Posted by dereknkathy
(Post 4588226)
actually, it's a reverse rotation camshaft. It just happens to turn standard Direction, opposite of the crankshaft rotation.
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Originally Posted by caldera
(Post 4588076)
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Total lost. Broken camshaft, pistons, block too also damaged crankshaft.... I need a new engine. I will post serial number, maybe someone knows where i can find same one. When and if you get your boat rinning, pls get a gps chartplotter. You can even get an app for your tablet or cell phone. Navionics U.S and Canada works very good as long as you have reception. There are plenty of used chartplotters out there for sale also. What happened to you was bad but it could have been much worse. Not being sarcastic or demeaning in any way Just looking out for ya. Pete |
Originally Posted by veloc410
(Post 4588227)
I am so glad I have bravos. He has transmissions right. Can one be reversed. Then both engines coulbe standard. Life would be easier. Dont know much about the transmissions
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Originally Posted by dereknkathy
(Post 4588252)
Nope. Velvet drives run same direction as their engine. Many newer types can be reversed, but not that one. Some borg gear reductions run opposite output from input, but they don't make the same ratio in both output rotations. My trannys in the hatteras are that way. Engines turn in, props turn out, so my opposite rotation engine is on diff side than most.
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Originally Posted by Bayley
(Post 3145738)
Wow, way to bring back a post from the past. ;)
Thanks for the update though. I've been contemplating replacing the dizzys with MSD units for a while now, but have otherwise been running stock MerCruiser distributors. FWIW: I replaced the bronze gear with a factory replacement gear and haven't had any problems in 8 years. :) |
Originally Posted by veloc410
(Post 4588255)
Hopefully he didn't do damage to the tranny. There has to be more to the boat also . He did hit something .correct
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Originally Posted by snapmorgan
(Post 4588143)
I have installed dozens of Jasper engines in cars, FedEx trucks and boats. I even put one in my mothers boat a couple of years ago. Have never had a complaint or a warranty claim. I believe they are probably the best stock rebuilder out there.
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Originally Posted by fbc25el
(Post 4588204)
It looks might of got some water in the cylinders and hydrolocked and broke the rods.
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Originally Posted by veloc410
(Post 4588238)
Caldera,
When and if you get your boat rinning, pls get a gps chartplotter. You can even get an app for your tablet or cell phone. Navionics U.S and Canada works very good as long as you have reception. There are plenty of used chartplotters out there for sale also. What happened to you was bad but it could have been much worse. Not being sarcastic or demeaning in any way Just looking out for ya. Pete |
Originally Posted by dereknkathy
(Post 4588252)
Nope. Velvet drives run same direction as their engine. Many newer types can be reversed, but not that one. Some borg gear reductions run opposite output from input, but they don't make the same ratio in both output rotations. My trannys in the hatteras are that way. Engines turn in, props turn out, so my opposite rotation engine is on diff side than most.
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Im not sure about another engine now. How to avoid same problem? If leftside was ****@up maybe right side is also in bad condition.
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Originally Posted by caldera
(Post 4588324)
Im not sure about another engine now. How to avoid same problem? If leftside was ****@up maybe right side is also in bad condition.
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Then again it is the right time of year to pull engines. Look at here😐 ISSUES
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So what is the big pipe elbow on top of the thermo housings?
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Originally Posted by veloc410
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So the konrads 540 would need the right trannies to get them spinning in .? They are controlled by transmission I've heard.
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Originally Posted by dereknkathy
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So what is the big pipe elbow on top of the thermo housings?
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Originally Posted by dereknkathy
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So what is the big pipe elbow on top of the thermo housings?
This cap is ugly but temporary and experimental. I am making replacement caps out of thick aluminum or stainless plate to replace them. I'm seriously coconsidering ditching the water pumps for crossover tubes. Dont really need the pumps unless closed cooling is used. Water now feeds exhaust manifold from bottom only. They are way cooler now which means more air flow. |
Originally Posted by veloc410
(Post 4588347)
This cap is ugly but temporary and experimental. I am making replacement caps out of thick aluminum or stainless plate to replace them. I'm seriously coconsidering ditching the water pumps for crossover tubes. Dont really need the pumps unless closed cooling is used. Water now feeds exhaust manifold from bottom only. They are way cooler now which means more air flow.
Originally Posted by dereknkathy
(Post 4588339)
So Konrad don't have left and right lowers like the TRS they replaced? Cuz Borg Velvet Drives turn the same way the motor does. You gotta flip front pump around for opposite rotation, but you can't just put it in reverse like a bravo and use right hand prop. In fact, reverse isn't even same ratio as forward.
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Originally Posted by veloc410
(Post 4588347)
This cap is ugly but temporary and experimental. I am making replacement caps out of thick aluminum or stainless plate to replace them. I'm seriously coconsidering ditching the water pumps for crossover tubes. Dont really need the pumps unless closed cooling is used. Water now feeds exhaust manifold from bottom only. They are way cooler now which means more air flow.
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