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GPM 02-22-2012 02:19 PM

Only an opinion, but it looks like the intake was leaking,

yschmidt 02-22-2012 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 3623897)
in a previous post i asked what brand of oil ,no response yet,also asked if gellner did these engines,again,no response,i have never seen a engine shop,s name on a crankshaft like that before,its pretty obvious who your engine guy is,so why are you not saying who built these engines?if a lawsuit ends up happening over this deal,im sure these pictures will be used as evidance.again i will ask,what does your engine builder have to say,as im sure you spoke with him before posting on oso.

Penzoil 20w-50 exactly what I was told to use by the builder. Why does it matter so much who did these? If you really want to know it doesn't take much to figure it out. When I contacted him with all the problems, he called bull**** - said that someone is ****ing me - never even asked to see a picture of anything. Again no lawsuit, what the **** would that get me? I've already lost 2 years of boating, the bull**** trying to get them complete, and now basically all the money spent. I never dreamed all this would be wrong when someone with reputation did the work. To me it's over now. Just showing what I found, and my final ****ing on this whole deal.

yschmidt 02-22-2012 02:29 PM

The temp sender was in the oil filter head. The block off plate was brand new from hardin marine - and again no bypass. For the first 6 hours I had a brand new teague 3"x18" cooler - the last 14 hrs it was a hardin 13 plate remote cooler. Plenty of cooling - no bypass.

I guess I need to ask: some people say the bearing clearance was perfect, now it is too tight.

Cranks have been taken out of the trash and are for sale since they are good. $200.00 each. :eekdrop:

yschmidt 02-22-2012 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 3624176)
What's the milkshake in the back of the lifter valley?

Looks like some water got through the silicone reinforced torn gasket that was intalled by the builder when the paint on the china wall failed.

But I'm sure you can correct that for me, and figure out how it's my fault the gasket was torn and siliconed.

articfriends 02-22-2012 02:43 PM

On one of your post you said" instead of using Hx bearings the HOUSINGS were bored bigger" are you saying the main bores and rod big ends were opened up to gain bearing clearence?

Panther 02-22-2012 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by yschmidt (Post 3624213)
Looks like some water got through the silicone reinforced torn gasket that was intalled by the builder when the paint on the china wall failed.

But I'm sure you can correct that for me, and figure out how it's my fault the gasket was torn and siliconed.

Listen, the milkshake in the lifter valley could have come from a bad intake seal. Is that your fault, NO... Who's is it, I don't know but I'm giving you advice on the other site and you think I'm just bashing you...

Your bearings could have been f'ed up from having water in the engine.. how's that?

But wait, I'm just saying it's all your fault... whatever..

Panther 02-22-2012 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by articfriends (Post 3624222)
On one of your post you said" instead of using Hx bearings the HOUSINGS were bored bigger" are you saying the main bores and rod big ends were opened up to gain bearing clearence?

I asked the same question on another site and he didn't answer me. Some people prefer not using HX bearings. So long as the crank radius isn't extreme, you don't need an HX bearing.

snapmorgan 02-22-2012 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by yschmidt (Post 3622178)
I did a leakdown on my motors coming out of my boat...it's been all downhill since then.

Guess how many hours are on these bearings?

Mains

What was the original complaint? What prompted you to do a leakdown on a 20hr engine? What did you find during the leak down test to warrant the tear down?

yschmidt 02-22-2012 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by articfriends (Post 3624222)
On one of your post you said" instead of using Hx bearings the HOUSINGS were bored bigger" are you saying the main bores and rod big ends were opened up to gain bearing clearence?

Yes.

And Panther, I will apologize there are tons of questions I am trying to answer, and provide anything anyone is asking for. Every once in a while the question comes while I'm typing, and don't even see them.

I will also apologize for being a dick to you. You just made a comment that really rubbed me the wrong way, and the wound from this is still a little raw. Again I am sorry.

yschmidt 02-22-2012 03:01 PM

My wife and I decided to do something different. I was going to sell these complete (no idea they had any issue) - the build was a complete nightmare, and I always just had a bad taste in my mouth. Kinda like something left over and lingering from a really bad break-up.

I have had them checked, and serviced by somebody very qualified, and this stuff surprised him also...maybe even more from than me.
Anyway, I was asked about a leakdown test, so when they had time i had a leakdown done. I need to double check my notes, but all cylinders leaked down at 8-14% with the exception of one at upper 20%, one at like 42% and another at 90%. I'll follow-up with the accurate information.


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