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Mad River 06-08-2012 11:07 AM

MCM525SC Cutting out
 
Maybe someone has had this problem: My Merc 525SC (Gen IV block, roller, Weiand 177, 1050 Dominator, Thunderbolt IV) will run great (WOT at 5200) for 15 or 20 minutes. Then it cuts out. It's not sudden, it's like I pulled the throttle back. Then she won't start - not even a pop - for 20 minutes. Then she starts, and I putt home slowly. So far I have:
Installed new ground to terminal block in dash, installed new ignition switch, installed new purple ignition wire from switch to coil, replaced coil, replaced tach (the tach used to jump around, now does not), I have fuel as the accel pumps squirt when pressed. Cap and rotor are new last year. I checked every connection I could find. The battery is new. I have good charge off the alternator, I have good oil pressure.
Anybody have any ideas?

Griff 06-08-2012 11:20 AM

Sounds like its running out of fuel. It could have a crack in the tank pick up tube or???
Do you have fuel pressure gauges????
BTW 15-20 mins at WOT is not a good way to make an engine live a long and happy life.

Mad River 06-08-2012 12:21 PM

I am going to install a fuel gauge tonight. I don't run WOT for any more than a few minutes. What I meant was the boat runs strong for 20 mins. If I run at 1200 RPM, she does not die. But that's not much fun!

Old Navy 06-08-2012 01:07 PM

Sounds like another post that was on here recently. They seemed to think ignition module. Does not sound fuel related.

blue thunder 06-08-2012 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Old Navy (Post 3705555)
Sounds like another post that was on here recently. They seemed to think ignition module. Does not sound fuel related.

I think the final diagnosis in that thread was the hall effect sensor in the distributor was failing.

Mad River 06-08-2012 01:39 PM

Thanks for the response!! I was thinking it is ignition related. I will replace the sensor.

Mad River 06-10-2012 06:33 AM

I replaced the ignition sessor. It was badly corroded, however, I am still having the same problem. Ran fine for 15 to 20 mins...slowly cut out, then after 30 minutes started and ran at low speed fine for a while. I will install fuel pressure gauge next, but the sensor did not fix the problem. Could it be the ignition module? Rev limiter?....I am going nuts!

ezstriper 06-10-2012 07:30 AM

seems elect to me...if were fuel would surge before shuts off I would think...the fuel pressure will show that...all the 525SC's I've seen had a factory fuel pressure gauge...I would try the module...heating up then shutting off....seen that before..also not sure what coil you used but some don't play well with others...MSD sells some drag race only coils that will overheat after longer running...

Precision 06-10-2012 08:34 AM

I just had this problem on one of mine. The best way to diagnose it is to use the Mercury flow chart. That is how I found that the pickup in the distributor was bad in mine.

Remember, you have to work your way through the flow chart when the boat is not running. If you wait until the boat is running again you are trying to diagnose a problem that is no longer a problem....if that makes sense.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...leshooting.png

Mad River 06-10-2012 12:04 PM

Thank you. I will take this out and follow the chart.

c_deezy 06-10-2012 01:18 PM

Had one awhile back that was the rev limiter, but it would take longer than 20 minutes before it would restart.

The motor would run fine, and then the interval between initial start-up and the time the motor began cutting out became shorter and shorter. It was hard to find at first because only one of the motors (twin setup) actually had a rev limiter, the other one that I had torn apart previously did not so it wasn't until I started swapping electronics that I found the rev limiter. Once I swapped that over, the problem followed.

This was on a HP500 with Thunderbolt IV ignition. The cable harness that runs from the coil/ignition module/distributor sensor without the rev limiter was NLA so I had to cut out the rev-limter and splice the harness back together looking at the other motor. After that, no more problems.

Unlimited jd 06-10-2012 09:11 PM

Rev limiter died on mine and caused intermittent no spark. I am replacing it with a standard tbiv harness tomorrow. Chased this for 2 weeks, boat wouldnt run on the water but ran fine at night when I got it home. It's mounted behind the ign module and I didn't even know it was there

Mad River 06-18-2012 07:49 AM

Hi -
Finally got the chance to run the test. I have spark, ignition checks OK so it must be fuel. Before I went out, I changed the fuel filter. Dumped the fuel from the old one in a glass jar and it looked fine - no water. I will install a fuel pressure gauge for my next test. Any suggestions?

Mad River 06-19-2012 06:26 AM

I took her out with a timing light hanging off #1 and when she stumbled and quit, the light was still flashing. Cranked her over and the light still showed I had spark. So it must be fuel. Before I went out, I changed the fuel filter and inspected what was in the old one. No water or sediment, and my fuel is fresh. I will put a fuel pressure gauge in and see what I have. Any thoughts other than that?
Thanks!

Unlimited jd 06-19-2012 07:47 AM

Vapor lock?

Mr Maine 06-19-2012 08:18 AM

I had an old boat that would run for a while, then starve for fuel and die. After a bit it would start again, chased and chased the problem, ended up being a small piece of blue tarp (no idea how it got in the tank) in the gas tank getting sucked up against the check valve on the tank fitting.

Just trying to think of possibilites for ya


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