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winkman 09-30-2012 11:38 AM

hydrolic steering
 
i would like to put full hydrolic steering on my 1999 baja h2x.. any suggenstions on what manufacturer to use for the easiest install and most reliable system.. thankjs

jiffy292 09-30-2012 08:11 PM

I used imco add on kit. Very good instructions, help on the phone when ordering, and quality

Hardin Marine 10-01-2012 06:05 PM

No ones kit installs easier than ours. Wing plate design and all 316L construction Here's a link too installation instructions for your review http://www.hardin-marine.com/Instruc...ed_7-13-12.pdf

tbanzer 10-01-2012 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by Hardin Marine (Post 3787978)
No ones kit installs easier than ours. Wing plate design and all 316L construction Here's a link too installation instructions for your review http://www.hardin-marine.com/Instruc...ed_7-13-12.pdf

And no ones kits blow the hydraulic hoses like yours either.

professor_speed 10-01-2012 07:41 PM

:poopoo: system pressure is function of the pump.

92nsx 10-02-2012 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by Hardin Marine (Post 3787978)
No ones kit installs easier than ours. Wing plate design and all 316L construction Here's a link too installation instructions for your review http://www.hardin-marine.com/Instruc...ed_7-13-12.pdf


Originally Posted by tbanzer (Post 3788024)
And no ones kits blow the hydraulic hoses like yours either.

:party-smiley-004:....Hardin Marine, What kind of warranty do you guy provide with your kit??

ezstriper 10-02-2012 01:14 PM

most all of the kits sold use basiclly the same parts, same helm assy. hose that you install ends your self, no stopping right here, battled the hose issue myself, at this point hard to beat the hardin kit but I would get it without the hose and ends, measure and have them made locally with pressed on ends...and it's not just hardin that sells the hoses this way, the brackets for the drive do vary from kit to kit but all do the same thing...keep a eye on how much room you have behind the dash and room to gauges/switches...ran into issues on the 253 checkmate and going to have to change to a longer column to get fixed right...

blownhammer2000 10-02-2012 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by jiffy292 (Post 3787394)
I used imco add on kit. Very good instructions, help on the phone when ordering, and quality

+1, i have imco myself and Ron went waaay out of his way to help me with clearance issues, imco hands down

jiffy292 10-02-2012 08:26 PM

I called cp performance for product info and the guy on the phone was rude and unhelpful

tbanzer 10-03-2012 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by professor_speed (Post 3788059)
:poopoo: system pressure is function of the pump.

There were three different hydraulic hose issues last season using their hoses and fittings. Me being one of them.

Full Force 10-03-2012 07:45 PM

I have a full system on the Cig that does not use a PS pump, man is that nice!!! no extra leaks and when I lose engine it still steers easy!!!

I will try to see what it is, looks kinda old school but man is hydraulic steering bad azz to have!

ezstriper 10-04-2012 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by tbanzer (Post 3789654)
There were three different hydraulic hose issues last season using their hoses and fittings. Me being one of them.

yes it was a big deal...mine was one to....

ThisIsLivin 10-04-2012 10:38 AM

I contacted CP Performance and they recommended the Mayfair kit it was the least expensive. I already have a single cylinder with a cable helm. I have to do something, when I'm running over 80 the slop in the cable helm makes it hard to drive through the chine walk when the boat is running light.
What hoses and fittings come with the Hardin kit?

jbraun2828 10-04-2012 12:10 PM

The kit comes with mandrel fittings. I would do what was mentioned before. Measure all the hoses then bring them to a hydraulic shop and have them press on real fittings. One thing to remember is the banjo fitting that goes into the power steering pump is a different size than the rest. Also don't use pipe dope on any of the npt threads as the fluid will eat it away and cause a leak. I think most of the problems was with the fittings and not the hose itself.

tbanzer 10-05-2012 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by jbraun2828 (Post 3790091)
The kit comes with mandrel fittings. I would do what was mentioned before. Measure all the hoses then bring them to a hydraulic shop and have them press on real fittings. One thing to remember is the banjo fitting that goes into the power steering pump is a different size than the rest. Also don't use pipe dope on any of the npt threads as the fluid will eat it away and cause a leak. I think most of the problems was with the fittings and not the hose itself.

I am not sure whos kit you are talking about . All I can reference is the Hardin marine kit. When I did have an issue the customer service rep treated me like I was some kind of an idiot and stated they have been using this type of hose and fittings for years. It was only after I mentioned that I was aware of a couple others this year alone having the same issues did they change their tune. I was told to package up the hoses with my receipt for the replacement hoses and ship them back with a RMA number and they would get back with me to determine what thay were going to do about my expenses resovolving this issue. I didnt ask them for labor tho remove their hoses and install mine or what it woud cost to clean up the three quarts of power steering fluid that was pumper threw out my dash and cutty, or the towing expense. Well its been a couple of months now and no word from them. Im sure The folks at Hardin Marine are monitoring this thread,and all I can say is when ever I get a chance to state how these circumstances took place I will. This was a potential catastophic issue and you had no reply. I just finished doing 90mph plus and fortunatly the hose blew at idle and not while we were under way.

jbraun2828 10-05-2012 11:39 AM

I was talking about the mayfair kit which comes with mandrel fittings as that was the question that was asked. Sorry about your problems. I have nothing to do with hardine marine.

ThisIsLivin 10-05-2012 12:07 PM

I've done a lot of high pressure hydraulics in the past and we always made our own hoses with mandrel fittings. We always used Parker Hannifin hoses and fittings and we never had one leak. We also used Loctite Teflon pipe sealant and never had a problem. We were building systems that ran at 2500 psi and 1.5" lines. If you are doing your own, just make sure your using quality materials.


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