502 MPI Nightmare!!!
#11
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From: Tampa, FL
Double check that it's not in power reduction mode.
(copy and paste below from the merc book for MEFI-1)
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The two discrete switch inputs and the ECT (engine coolant temperature) sensor are used
by the EFI system to identify abnormal conditions that affect engine operations. If engine oil
pressure drops too low, or if drive unit fluid level (in the reservoir bottle) becomes too low, or
if the engine coolant temperature becomes too high, the ECM will engage the “power reduction mode”. The “power reduction mode” allows normal fuel injection and full power up to
2,800 rpm. Above 2800 rpm, fuel delivery is limited to 1 injector (TBI models) or 4 injectors
(MPI models) until rpm falls below 1200. The engine will then resume normal operation with
all injectors firing. If the problem goes away (while power reduction mode is engaged), the
engine immediately resumes normal operation.
(copy and paste below from the merc book for MEFI-1)
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The two discrete switch inputs and the ECT (engine coolant temperature) sensor are used
by the EFI system to identify abnormal conditions that affect engine operations. If engine oil
pressure drops too low, or if drive unit fluid level (in the reservoir bottle) becomes too low, or
if the engine coolant temperature becomes too high, the ECM will engage the “power reduction mode”. The “power reduction mode” allows normal fuel injection and full power up to
2,800 rpm. Above 2800 rpm, fuel delivery is limited to 1 injector (TBI models) or 4 injectors
(MPI models) until rpm falls below 1200. The engine will then resume normal operation with
all injectors firing. If the problem goes away (while power reduction mode is engaged), the
engine immediately resumes normal operation.
#13
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From: Between A Womans Leggs in IL
Thanks for your feedback guys! I do have one set of injectors being tested and cleaned. Still don't think that's it. Like I said, I've tried two sets now. The second were on a boat last year that ran great. And I can't see all eight going bad at the same time. But ya never know.
I did get some input today that if any of the valves were not done right, it would cause a blowout in the cylinder which would in turn trip the ECU to lean out, thus causing all plugs to indicate running lean.
I've heard so many different things at this point, my head is spinning!!!
Any thoughts?
I did get some input today that if any of the valves were not done right, it would cause a blowout in the cylinder which would in turn trip the ECU to lean out, thus causing all plugs to indicate running lean.
I've heard so many different things at this point, my head is spinning!!!
Any thoughts?
#15
I am thinking valve spring as well. It would run fine up to a point and then float. You would also have an okay compression test as well. I had a 465 HP do this kinda thing to me and I finally checked and for a broken spring.
#19
Well folks, this one finally got solved and the OP should be picking the boat up tonight. Thanks for all of your suggestions, but nobody was even close. I'll let the OP fill you in on what we found, but I will pass on one bit of advice / hint that our Service Manager passed on to me many, many years ago:
"All stupid electrical problems are a bad ground."
I will say that the two mechanics at our marina who worked on this boat checked absolutely everything - over and over again. Although they kept running into brick walls, neither of them gave up and every morning they'd show up with lists of new things to check for. When I heard the boat (in our launch ramp for the millionth time) fire up and actually rev past a couple thousand RPM for the first time this morning, you should have seen the smiles on these two guys faces. There were high fives all around. The key here - persistence and product knowledge.
"All stupid electrical problems are a bad ground."
I will say that the two mechanics at our marina who worked on this boat checked absolutely everything - over and over again. Although they kept running into brick walls, neither of them gave up and every morning they'd show up with lists of new things to check for. When I heard the boat (in our launch ramp for the millionth time) fire up and actually rev past a couple thousand RPM for the first time this morning, you should have seen the smiles on these two guys faces. There were high fives all around. The key here - persistence and product knowledge.






