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KRAUSMOTORSPORTS 09-05-2013 08:56 AM

Bringing back E-85 for a update
 
Hey guys! Recently after going through race gas vs. e-85 in the supercharging drag racing world. I'm putting this topic
Back up for learning purposes. If any body has seen new Ideas or has had great luck in this process. Please shed some light.
Also keep in mind my boat will have fuel removed flushed and is only used for very light pleasure cruising but mostly just having fun racing back in the cricks- as we call it. Gph has no play here. looking to maximize my power potential. . Please no bashers. Thanks guys!

Captain YARRR 09-05-2013 08:58 AM

No experience with boats but I know my buddies with turbo and blown applications in their cars are switching over with great luck.

KRAUSMOTORSPORTS 09-05-2013 09:26 AM

Yes it is has many advantages in running in the car application. I'm currently running 23lbs of boost with a 2.3
Whipple making 699rwhp on e85 , 645 on 93 octane, (04 cobra/ fords terminator car) .. Also my truck is flex fuel and I'm converting my street trucks to e-85 for power reasons only. Figured I would convert my carbed 454 n/a (high compression) in the IMP in hopes for a few more mph. Also all my vehicles are driven maybe 5k miles a year.

mike tkach 09-05-2013 09:28 AM

e85 has a much higher octane rating than pump gas but it burns a lot more fuel per mile,for drag race type of boating i think it would be great,but for long runs you might need to add another fuel tank.

ttuton 09-05-2013 09:42 AM

I ran e-85 in my jet boat with stainless tanks and it worked great. I don't think it would work so great with fiberglass tanks. It did burn approx 30% more fuel than on race gas.

JRider 09-05-2013 09:58 AM

E10 does not even work with glass tanks. My brother converted his jet boat with no issues and there is a ton of info on Performanceboats.com on the subject. A lot of forced induction vdrive and jet guys are going in that direction.

KRAUSMOTORSPORTS 09-05-2013 01:08 PM

Good stuff keep it coming! I also have a jet boat in process of restoration. Also with custom stainless built tanks. My current boat has aluminum tank-100 gallon and I also need new fuel system. Might as well setup for e-85! Should last me a good while. Lol if I fill it!! I've never ran more than 30 gallons.

Knot 4 Me 09-05-2013 01:19 PM

Pretty sure the V-16's that are in the new Lightning Performance Group 50 Mystic are running on E-85. You could contact them or talk to Myrick at Nauti Marine.

ezstriper 09-05-2013 02:17 PM

I drag race a drag radial X275 Ultra Street car, using a 6.0 LS with a Turbo, no intercooler on E85 love it !! we run 25lbs of boost right now right at 1000hp, we also use water.meth injection to cool the inlet temp some...but overall can't beat the E85 @ 2.85 gal !!!!, you will need to a fuel system to move 40% more fuel, so keep that in mind..my fuel system(magnafuel) is good for 2500hp....

Captain YARRR 09-05-2013 04:13 PM

Well you sure can beat E85 for the price, it sure is expensive when you are burning a hell of a lot more of it. Wipes out all the cost savings and then some. But that's not what this thread is about!

underpsi68 09-05-2013 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by Captain YARRR (Post 3989162)
Well you sure can beat E85 for the price, it sure is expensive when you are burning a hell of a lot more of it. Wipes out all the cost savings and then some. But that's not what this thread is about!

e85 comes out to be about the same price in mpg as 93 octane ( non marine gas pumps). It is race gas at pump gas price.

Another happy e85 in a car application. 352ci, 15psi 900hp. Engine has 6000 miles it, not one issue ever. Engine runs cooler, smoother and can't make it detonate if I tried lol.

Like stated mpg is 30-40% less. I could see that being a problem in a boat depending on how big the tank/s are and how far you drive.

ttuton 09-05-2013 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by Captain YARRR (Post 3989162)
Well you sure can beat E85 for the price, it sure is expensive when you are burning a hell of a lot more of it. Wipes out all the cost savings and then some. But that's not what this thread is about!

If your engine normally requires $7/gal race gas and you run e-85 @ $2.85 and burn 30% more fuel, you are saving $3.30 a gallon! I will take that any day.

GPM 09-05-2013 04:31 PM

Been running E85 in a Procharged 615 for 2 seasons now, no problems to date. Idles a lot better, runs strong accross the board, clean transom, runs lower Egt's, love it.

underpsi68 09-05-2013 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by ttuton (Post 3989174)
If your engine normally requires $7/gal race gas and you run e-85 @ $2.85 and burn 30% more fuel, you are saving $3.30 a gallon! I will take that any day.

Please tell me where I can buy$7/gal race gas lol. The last time I looked VP was $18 a gallon in a 5 gallon container.

Griff 09-05-2013 04:54 PM

You can pump 110 octane right into your boat at LOTO for $8.50 a gallon and Camden on the Lake.

Captain YARRR 09-05-2013 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by ttuton (Post 3989174)
If your engine normally requires $7/gal race gas and you run e-85 @ $2.85 and burn 30% more fuel, you are saving $3.30 a gallon! I will take that any day.

Good point, I was thinking in terms of pump gas choices. That makes lots of sense in that context.

FIXX 09-05-2013 05:41 PM

here is the problem with e85 at the pump,,its ocrane rating is wishy washy..its never consistent..because its blended at the gas station your getting it from one week it can be 105 octane and another week it can be 112 octane..if you were to but it from a fuel wholesaler like vp fuels its like 65 bucks for 115 octaine in a 5 gallon pail which makes it more expensive that running 112..

ezstriper 09-06-2013 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by Captain YARRR (Post 3989162)
Well you sure can beat E85 for the price, it sure is expensive when you are burning a hell of a lot more of it. Wipes out all the cost savings and then some. But that's not what this thread is about!

....Really ??? well if you figure what we are running boost wise with no intercooler...we would need to be using $10+ race fuel....so do the math now...

KRAUSMOTORSPORTS 09-06-2013 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by FIXX (Post 3989218)
here is the problem with e85 at the pump,,its ocrane rating is wishy washy..its never consistent..because its blended at the gas station your getting it from one week it can be 105 octane and another week it can be 112 octane..if you were to but it from a fuel wholesaler like vp fuels its like 65 bucks for 115 octaine in a 5 gallon pail which makes it more expensive that running 112..

Yes this is true to a point. What can be noted is (since this was meant for strictly a performance base thread) is some actually test their race fuels for correct octane levels depending on how much you are into perfecting your current setup. Timing, plugs, plug gap, indexing plugs if some people do this. Etc.... I am ocd when it comes to knowing every little detail. Heck I have a egt for every cylinder! My main point is in the car world we actually call the gas station supplying e-85 and ask which blend it is they are supplying. Ex. SUMMER OR WINTER BLEND. If your engine is tuned on summer blend and they switch to winter blend you must be careful as the WINTER blend is weaker and may have to pull some timing back. We test every time we get e-85 to ensure we are getting correct amount of ethonlol. Which summer time 9 times out of ten is 90% ethonol which is what my car is tuned for and would be the same for the boat. (who goes out in the winter???) ok some may. lol I would also follow this rule when running in my boats as well. I look at it as merely only a HP performance advantage without considering the fuel consumption cost. I need a complete fuel system anyhow so might as well go e-85 compatible. You can also buy the ethanol testers as well. It just boils down to storage availability in your shop if it is HVAC controlled as we know storing e-85 it absorbs moisture and if you monitor your humidity??
*** on another note for those who buy pump gas Race fuel. (Sunoco) or any others i will not throw out names. Do a moisture and octane level test and see what you come up with. I have also seen heard and read that by "some" standards, gas stations are allowed +- 4-6 % of advertised octane level. So 93 isn't actual 93 but ethonlol again is 9 out of 10 right on the money. Just my 2cents.

mcollinstn 09-07-2013 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by Captain YARRR (Post 3989162)
Well you sure can beat E85 for the price, it sure is expensive when you are burning a hell of a lot more of it. Wipes out all the cost savings and then some. But that's not what this thread is about!

In comparison to race gas, E85 begins to look pretty attractive.
Nobody has said that E85 is being considered for low compression cruising.


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