Great Article on detonation/preignition
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Good post, MT, and I agree that you have to be smart about tuning these engines. The discussion in the article about combustion chamber design and timing greatly interested me. I am switching from stock GM heads to AFR 265's on my little old 489, and I am wondering how much that will affect the timing curve for the engine. Not sure if the AFR chambers are a true "fast burn" design, but they have to be more efficient than the 50-year old technology that the GM heads were sporting.
My plans for this engine are to end up in the 575 - 580 HP range with a conservative tune to help promote longevity. I like turtles too
- don't want to be the hare blowing up out on the water.
My plans for this engine are to end up in the 575 - 580 HP range with a conservative tune to help promote longevity. I like turtles too
- don't want to be the hare blowing up out on the water.
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Food for thought. Stock Supercharged Cobra Mustangs fuel down to 11.1-11.2 at power enrichment. Turbo Buick guys, are fueling into the 10's on afr. A buddy of mine with a boosted up Grand National, actually made more power on the chassis dyno at the richer AFR. Leaning it down lost some power.
I personally think on a boosted marine engine, tuning to upper 11's, at full kill, is gonna cause an early death. I personally pulled some fuel from my setup this year, thinking I was giving up power in the 10's on afr. By leaning it out some, the boat actually slowed down. Maybe on the dyno it works for making max hp, but maybe for me, the added fuel helped cool things down. IDK.
I personally think on a boosted marine engine, tuning to upper 11's, at full kill, is gonna cause an early death. I personally pulled some fuel from my setup this year, thinking I was giving up power in the 10's on afr. By leaning it out some, the boat actually slowed down. Maybe on the dyno it works for making max hp, but maybe for me, the added fuel helped cool things down. IDK.
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Good post, MT, and I agree that you have to be smart about tuning these engines. The discussion in the article about combustion chamber design and timing greatly interested me. I am switching from stock GM heads to AFR 265's on my little old 489, and I am wondering how much that will affect the timing curve for the engine. Not sure if the AFR chambers are a true "fast burn" design, but they have to be more efficient than the 50-year old technology that the GM heads were sporting.
My plans for this engine are to end up in the 575 - 580 HP range with a conservative tune to help promote longevity. I like turtles too
- don't want to be the hare blowing up out on the water.
My plans for this engine are to end up in the 575 - 580 HP range with a conservative tune to help promote longevity. I like turtles too
- don't want to be the hare blowing up out on the water.
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"enlighten me!!!! been their done this would not rev over 5 k,,maybe good for a cruiser..switched to 295's and picked up 1200 rpm.. "

Here we go!
I'm going by what was recommended to me by a highly regarded marine valvetrain designer who ground the cam I am running. Have read several articles that says that these heads can support 700 HP - not saying a 489 would ever make that, but just what I have read. I never plan to spin this rig above 5500 RPM, so I guess that is a factor. Sounds like your results varied.

Here we go!

I'm going by what was recommended to me by a highly regarded marine valvetrain designer who ground the cam I am running. Have read several articles that says that these heads can support 700 HP - not saying a 489 would ever make that, but just what I have read. I never plan to spin this rig above 5500 RPM, so I guess that is a factor. Sounds like your results varied.





