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mike tkach 11-13-2013 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4026222)
Stout!! Again, the 420's aren't given enough credit.

Bob, do you recall the drive ratio on that setup to achieve the 8.75psi with the chiller on that 548? Hopefully in the next couple seasons I will build some 540 shortblocks and reuse my 420 blowers.

mt,did you ever consider m4 prochargers for the 540s,there is a pair for sale in swap&shop.

MILD THUNDER 11-13-2013 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 4026233)
mt,did you ever consider m4 prochargers for the 540s,there is a pair for sale in swap&shop.

I have considered them, but I prefer to take my friends for a ride on my boat, not for a ride on the dyno. :)

mike tkach 11-13-2013 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by mild thunder (Post 4026236)
i have considered them, but i prefer to take my friends for a ride on my boat, not for a ride on the dyno. :)

ouch!:boat:

DirtyJohnson 11-13-2013 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4026223)
It also looks like they were dyno'ed with imco manifolds??? That's impressive to say the least.

yes imco manifolds, don't think I will ever run headers with all the leaks they have. people also underestimate manifolds too.


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4026222)
Stout!! Again, the 420's aren't given enough credit.

Bob, do you recall the drive ratio on that setup to achieve the 8.75psi with the chiller on that 548? Hopefully in the next couple seasons I will build some 540 shortblocks and reuse my 420 blowers.



That is my engine Bob posted above. It is 25% overdriven.

MILD THUNDER 11-13-2013 03:29 PM

Good stuff. Im pleasantly surprised with your setup. I hear ya on the headers. Other than looking cool, my next exhaust purchase will be the Stainless marine Gen III's more than likely. I'd imagine your Daytona is rockin with that mill init

wayne272 11-13-2013 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by bigboat28 (Post 4025981)
Wayne272 how is it around the docks as far as starting and idling? How much more fuel does it use out of curiosity?

Fires up like stock and the idle is pretty much like stock (around 800 rpm). No problems at all around the docks. As far as how much more fuel burned I haven't really tracked it, since I still have some prop tuning to do and I really didn't get to use it that much this summer. If I remember, the dyno sheet had it burning around 25-30gph around 3500-4000 rpm. I am also running the v6 module on my tbolt 4 ignition.

DirtyJohnson 11-13-2013 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4026424)
Good stuff. Im pleasantly surprised with your setup. I hear ya on the headers. Other than looking cool, my next exhaust purchase will be the Stainless marine Gen III's more than likely. I'd imagine your Daytona is rockin with that mill init

wait till you see the EFI setup, I will post up some pics when I get it completed.

bigboat28 11-14-2013 06:36 AM

Are blowers hard on starters?

MILD THUNDER 11-14-2013 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by bigboat28 (Post 4026717)
Are blowers hard on starters?

No. There's a reason tons of people use them. From the average boater upgrading, marine engine builders, Mercury marine, etc. Properly setup , they work great. You can rotate a blower with little effort. Actually, a low compression supercharged engine will crank easier than a high compression N/A engine

rmbuilder 11-14-2013 10:36 AM

Heads
 
Mike,

The cylinder heads were box stock AFR 325 cc with the CNC chamber port option. This head is the base casting for the 335 fully CNC head with the exception of the porting program run only through the combustion chamber, seat, throat, and bowl area.

Ultimately the decision was made to go these heads due to the fact that I had seen them support well in excess of 1100 hp in prior testing. The efficiency of this exhaust port is certainly key in handling the volume of spent charge at outputs of exceeding 1000 hp. The fact was, at some point we would run out of blower before we would run out of cylinder head. While there may have been some incremental gains to be had by expanding the cylinder head program, given budgetary considerations, and that the target 1000 hp was obtained, the “bang for the buck quotient” for this package is right on the money.

To reiterate what MT has already mentioned, the Imco manifolds exceeded everyone’s expectations. Given the capability of the selected head easily surpassed the target for the project, the additional resources available from utilizing this head were diverted toward valvetrain optimization.

The valve size is the standard 2.300” intake with the SS exhaust swapped out for the proprietary 1.880” Ferrea tulip valve. The spring package was also optimized toward stabilizing the dynamic mass of the valvetrain. The fuel curve is confirmation the valvetrain was very “quiet”.

Bob


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