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#231
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Probably like the one's he sold a member here. Sold him top of the lime Morels for a big solid roller in a near 600" blown motor and they broke. When we got the pics of the blown up lifters/motor, we noticed they where the cheap street solid rollers. Feet at the axles spread and stuck in the bores. Broke the motor.
He blamed the engine owner and builder for not noticing during assembly. The lifters came in a unlabeled brown box so how would they know.
He blamed the engine owner and builder for not noticing during assembly. The lifters came in a unlabeled brown box so how would they know.
#232
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Probably like the one's he sold a member here. Sold him top of the lime Morels for a big solid roller in a near 600" blown motor and they broke. When we got the pics of the blown up lifters/motor, we noticed they where the cheap street solid rollers. Feet at the axles spread and stuck in the bores. Broke the motor.
He blamed the engine owner and builder for not noticing during assembly. The lifters came in a unlabeled brown box so how would they know.
He blamed the engine owner and builder for not noticing during assembly. The lifters came in a unlabeled brown box so how would they know.
#233
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not sure,I was out for a surgery and Tom the owner was contacted by ctroll.usually we buy isky rollers but were sold these "marine special" lifters and guaranteed they'd work.well I came back and fired up a motor and thats when I noticed no oil to the rocker arms.turned out I had to cut a groove up the lifter to contact the oil gallery.ctroll took a its your fault attitude.If he was in front of me when he said that,,well ,there'd be some problems for him.
we've built mre than 500 engines and this was the only time we've seen this problem.
then we had him cut us some marine cams for a blown 540,,lets just say the boat went slower than before.
we've built mre than 500 engines and this was the only time we've seen this problem.
then we had him cut us some marine cams for a blown 540,,lets just say the boat went slower than before.
#234
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From: taxachusetts
Probably like the one's he sold a member here. Sold him top of the lime Morels for a big solid roller in a near 600" blown motor and they broke. When we got the pics of the blown up lifters/motor, we noticed they where the cheap street solid rollers. Feet at the axles spread and stuck in the bores. Broke the motor.
He blamed the engine owner and builder for not noticing during assembly. The lifters came in a unlabeled brown box so how would they know.
He blamed the engine owner and builder for not noticing during assembly. The lifters came in a unlabeled brown box so how would they know.
#235
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From: Tri-Cities, TN
Sutphen30 is not nor has he ever claimed to be a business owner. He is just a person who has gotten your crap and been screwed by it, and the seen the results of it in multiple blown up marine motors.
Getting your website on Google page 1 takes about 5 minutes if the web designer has a clue. Just like anything else, as in a fancy website, it means nothing. Last time I looked, websites nor Google searches were any good at building motors or putting cams in them.
Getting your website on Google page 1 takes about 5 minutes if the web designer has a clue. Just like anything else, as in a fancy website, it means nothing. Last time I looked, websites nor Google searches were any good at building motors or putting cams in them.
#236
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From: Tri-Cities, TN
Sure call me and I will send you a call tag for the am and refund you. Number is 423 391 7774
#238
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yeah,thank god luck was on my side when I noticed your "marine special" lifters weren't suppling oil to the rocker arms.you cost me time to fix 5 blower motors.you are and always will be a screw up.now go hit the bottle and keep telling yourself youself your great.as for name calling,,your an azzhat and a buffoon.
anyone who uses you is dumber than you because they will get con'd by the conman of cams.
know what I wish,,you would just dissappear from our boating sites,because your clueless.
anyone who uses you is dumber than you because they will get con'd by the conman of cams.
know what I wish,,you would just dissappear from our boating sites,because your clueless.
I've got great customers and they are all good people. You calling them names will ever concrete the idea of you never being in business for yourself. You don't treat people you don't know like that.
#239
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From: Tri-Cities, TN
Probably like the one's he sold a member here. Sold him top of the lime Morels for a big solid roller in a near 600" blown motor and they broke. When we got the pics of the blown up lifters/motor, we noticed they where the cheap street solid rollers. Feet at the axles spread and stuck in the bores. Broke the motor.
He blamed the engine owner and builder for not noticing during assembly. The lifters came in a unlabeled brown box so how would they know.
He blamed the engine owner and builder for not noticing during assembly. The lifters came in a unlabeled brown box so how would they know.
B2B ordered lifters from me. I drop shipped the lifters to the engine builder. I was billed by Morel for the lifters. LIfters did not come here. The engine builder was a customer. He ordered both 4606 and 4845 from me. Your wrong, it is there responsibility to verify that they got the right parts. The bill from morel to me was for 4845s. I sent a copy of the Morels invoice to B2B.
Morel at that time did not have the street solid roller lifter. The street solid roller is an encapsulated lifter with a .700" wheel. The body of the lifter covers most of the wheel. The lifters available at that time were the 4606 and 4845 in .842" +.300" tall.
Scott the last line of QC is the engine builder. Check clearances and verify parts is part of engine building.
Morel lifters still come in a kraft box today from some companies. This has not changed.
#240
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not sure,I was out for a surgery and Tom the owner was contacted by ctroll.usually we buy isky rollers but were sold these "marine special" lifters and guaranteed they'd work.well I came back and fired up a motor and thats when I noticed no oil to the rocker arms.turned out I had to cut a groove up the lifter to contact the oil gallery.ctroll took a its your fault attitude.If he was in front of me when he said that,,well ,there'd be some problems for him.
we've built mre than 500 engines and this was the only time we've seen this problem.
then we had him cut us some marine cams for a blown 540,,lets just say the boat went slower than before.
we've built mre than 500 engines and this was the only time we've seen this problem.
then we had him cut us some marine cams for a blown 540,,lets just say the boat went slower than before.
Coughlin called me Bill. Modifying lifters in the manner you are speaking is a patch for improper lifter bore clearances. I gone over this with John Callies on several occausions. Grooving the lifters or grooving the bores, Comp has tool for doing this to the lifter bores. If the bores are not correct when measured during pre assembly then this process can be preformed. That is engine building 101. I'm glad you posted that about grooving the lifter bore after the fact and you have it in writing now.


