Originally Posted by Borgie (Post 4085791)

Oh you weren't taking about me?! Didn't realize there is another guy on here with a "trovar" as you call it. You are so very unoriginal and pathetic... Granted there are some guys on here, as evidenced by the last couple of days that truly are train wrecks, however I don't appreciate being associated. Especially by some illiterate, half breed red neck like you. You can turn a wrench, so can I. Where we differ is I am eloquent and well spoken/read, and you are a bumbling ratard who thinks he's the marine engine god. Well maybe in your pitiful circle you may be, however, the rest of use know the truth. To be funny, you need wit, that is something god definitely DID NOT bestow upon you.....

Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4085787)

Wow, a injection unit off a mid 80s caddy? You have way more money than i do. And i dont appreciate you spending mine for me. I have a perfectly good 4-6-8 caddy engine out in the barn. I am going to retrofit the ecm it to my 454. This way, when i am cruising down the river, i can cut cylinders out like the new Hemi and save on gas. I am gonna have it all on switches at the dash. So when those fountain big shot jerks come up to me, i can flip on all 8 cylinders and show them how its done.

Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4085695)

Hey guys. I'm thinking of making some changes in boating. I am considering this Liberator 201. I can get a SMOKING deal on the boat. It has some hull rot here and there, nothing major. Just the transom and stringers and interior are shot. But, I have a unlimited supply of plywood scraps, as a buddy works for the local lumber yard. other than that, the boat just needs some TLC. There was a small fire under the dash, too. Anyhow, as it sits, the engine is locked up (boat been left out in the rain uncovered since 1992). Which is ok, because i am highly talented in rebuilding engines and woodworking, and should be good to go there. Here is what I would like to build for power.


Reuse the stock cast crankshaft. It will need to be cut 40/30, but I am not rich, and buying a new crank is not in the budget.

Reuse the stock 3/8 GM rods. They look to be in good shape, along with the bolts after i soak them in marvel mystery oil for a few weeks. I am not rich, so new rods are not in the budget.

The pistons are gonna need to be replaced. I will be going with some used ones out of my buddys 454 truck engine. I am not rich, so new pistons are not in the budget.

That should take care of the bottom ends. I think they will hold up to 6000RPM, or so I have heard. Which brings me to the good stuff.

I Found a used flat tappet cam and lifter set on ebay. The cam is a 194/203, with .398 lift. I plan to retard it 2 degrees, for a little more top end. I am not rich, new cams are not in the budget.

I am going to keep the peanut butter port heads. I have seen, i mean heard, they can support 700HP. Probably just derust them and throw a couple shims under the stock valvesprings, since i plan to turn about 6000 wot. I am not rich, new heads are not in the budget.

Which brings me to my question. I am in a real pickle here. I am really undecided on which route to go for an intake manifold. I have seen, i mean heard, that a dual plane will be the way to go, as long as i am under 7250RPM. Just not sure. Either that, or my buddy has a single plane weiand intake that he would give me if i mow his lawn. I am not rich, so new intakes are not in the budget.

If you guys can give some thoughts on this, I'd really appreciate it. By the way, my total budget for this build is 672 dollars. I would like to show everyone you dont need to be a spoon fed rich boy to make some BIG horsepower. Which, btw I am shooting for 650-700HP on this build. Keep in mind, I am looking low end TORQUE and MIDRANGE punch. I think when i am all done, I'm gonna be embarrassing quite a few of you big shots with your Fountains and Cigarettes, especially when it gets rough. The liberators are a deep vee. Any thoughts? :party-smiley-004:

Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 4085798)

will you sell me the 4 6 8 caddy engine,that would be bad azz in the bayliner if i win the auction.

Originally Posted by CAPTAIN JACK (Post 4085809)

Holy crap my gut is hurting to much from laughing, this is some good stuff right here.

Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4085810)

Mild, I put together a viv collection for you detailing how I build my 7000rpm monsters. Here an excerpt on the head torquing sequence, please pay close attention

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIU0R7sOjm8 I got new compressor too, it rocks!

Originally Posted by Borgie (Post 4085802)

Mike you are really de railing this fine thread. Structure, oh you mean my 3,500 square foot custom home in the foreground? Oh yeah that building! I live in Arabian country(east Scottsdale), better tell all these poor ranch owners tractors equal poor! according to mike from OSO. Listen you are too dumb to compete with me using words. Drop it so the thread can continue! Oh yeah, I hate you. Have a nice life

Originally Posted by CAPTAIN JACK (Post 4085817)

I'm glad I found this site, you guy's are really giving me some good info I can use. I don't know where I went wrong the last time I tried them peanut butter heads, all they did for me was gum up my cylinder walls.

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Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4085810)

Mild, I put together a viv collection for you detailing how I build my 7000rpm monsters. Here an excerpt on the head torquing sequence, please pay close attention

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIU0R7sOjm8 I got new compressor too, it rocks!

Originally Posted by CAPTAIN JACK (Post 4085817)

I'm glad I found this site, you guy's are really giving me some good info I can use. I don't know where I went wrong the last time I tried them peanut butter heads, all they did for me was gum up my cylinder walls.

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Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 4085738)

my nabor has some sand in his kid,s sandbox,im sure he will let you have some for your project,i told him you are not rich.

Originally Posted by Black Baja (Post 4085849)

Just wondering what you guys think of using a gas powered leaf blower for a blower. It will not rob the engine of any horsepower... I think I can get a cheap fuel injection off a Dord Escort. It's all I can afford. If you guys didn't know I don't have alot of money so I do all my own tunning.

Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 4085882)

i saw a pic of a dual leaf blower setup one time,im not rich so i may look into getting a setup like that.

Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4085805)

I think the crank will clean up nicely.

Originally Posted by Black Baja (Post 4085912)

I'm interested in your crank.

Originally Posted by Black Baja (Post 4085912)

I'm interested in your crank. Can u e-mail me some "condition" pics? Is that a top fuel crank?

Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4085919)

Right now its soaking in naval jelly. Ill try to get some better pics later. im thinking after i peen it a few hundred times with my hammer, i should get most of the rust down, to at least get it mounted in my lathe.

Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 4085914)

Another byproduct of the polar vortex - this thread. I had to take a leak before pulling this up. Now I'm sitting in a puddle. Thanks. Thanks a lot!!!

Originally Posted by Budman II (Post 4085932)

Originally Posted by payuppsucker (Post 4085951)

Winter is far from over as this thread has confirmed without a doubt. Funny chit here except for a few post made by azzholes.

Originally Posted by payuppsucker (Post 4085951)

Winter is far from over as this thread has confirmed without a doubt. Funny chit here except for a few post made by azzholes.

Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4086084)

You mean Boogie taking things way too personally? Why is he so angry all the time? You`d think living in a warm climate you wouldn`t be so angry :confused:


Angry Buger post telling me how much better he is then me in 3...2...1...

Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4086084)

You mean Boogie taking things way too personally? Why is he so angry all the time? You`d think living in a warm climate you wouldn`t be so angry :confused:


Angry Buger post telling me how much better he is then me in 3...2...1...

Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4086084)

You mean Boogie taking things way too personally? Why is he so angry all the time? You`d think living in a warm climate you wouldn`t be so angry :confused:


Angry Buger post telling me how much better he is then me in 3...2...1...