525 sc ?
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That changes things if you already have the setups but you could always peddle them and go a different direction. Do you have blocks? If so what displacement.
Here is my 509, Dart Pro1 heads, Dart intake, 10:1, built by Jim Valako.
622tq, 684hp
Here is my 509, Dart Pro1 heads, Dart intake, 10:1, built by Jim Valako.
622tq, 684hp
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I just built similar engines. I started with hp500s though. Dropped compression to 7.6. Used a 525efi cam. Original heads. And 420 blowers, intercooled. Basically hp600 clones but intercooled and pushing more boost. I know you have to draw the line somewhere but id definitely overbuild it that way you have room to grow. Start with the 502 and the biggest blower you can get your hands on. Nobody said you have to use it to its limits. Heat is the enemy!
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[QUOTE=MILD THUNDER;
Ive had the same engine combo for a long time, with different blowers, starting from 177, then 250, then 420. Each time I upgraded the blower, the boat went faster, at the same or less boost. 5psi with 177 netted me 79mph. 7psi with a 250 blower, netted me 83mph. 6psi with 420 blower netted me 88mph.[/QUOTE]
Great Scott! Do you see some serious ****!
Ive had the same engine combo for a long time, with different blowers, starting from 177, then 250, then 420. Each time I upgraded the blower, the boat went faster, at the same or less boost. 5psi with 177 netted me 79mph. 7psi with a 250 blower, netted me 83mph. 6psi with 420 blower netted me 88mph.[/QUOTE]
Great Scott! Do you see some serious ****!
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Thanks for all the input,
I know there are better options but have 2 complete setups sitting on a shelf.( Minus 1 lower pulley if anyone has one). just looking for a reliable setup with the Cool factor of the blower, I would be fine with the 525 hp but since I am building a engine anyway small improvements would be great as long as reliability is not affected. It does seem to be hard to find an off the shelf piston under 8.0:1 cr.
I know there are better options but have 2 complete setups sitting on a shelf.( Minus 1 lower pulley if anyone has one). just looking for a reliable setup with the Cool factor of the blower, I would be fine with the 525 hp but since I am building a engine anyway small improvements would be great as long as reliability is not affected. It does seem to be hard to find an off the shelf piston under 8.0:1 cr.
Real nice power from a basic setup, with no fancy parts. Just GM iron heads and crane flat tappet cams.
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Went with that cr mostly because if it was good enough for merc, its good enough for me. But also because i plan on different heads, a 110cc head will put me at 8 flat. The efi cams i had upgraded last year when it was still na. Didn't see much reason for another custom grind with plans of different heads and exhaust in the near future. Im quite happy even with this setup as they push my bathtub 87mph on just 6psi and stock merc/gil manifolds!
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In the boat ready to go once mother nature starts cooperating. Couple hours on them already to get my first couple oil changes out of the way so were ready to boat. I think the first trip to Peoria is going to be for the 4th. Most likely stay at EPBC. What do you run? Ill have to keep an eye out!
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If you go with a small blower and want to make efficient power, you need more compression and NOT more blower speed. With aluminum heads 8.25 :1 is no problem. Huffers look good and are fun but cost money and are somewhat high maintenance...kinda like a stripper.


