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Wobble 07-02-2014 12:51 PM

Are the ends of any valves broken off?

Baja226sport 07-02-2014 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by Wobble (Post 4147229)
Are the ends of any valves broken off?

No, no visible damage to the heads at all. They are being gone through now so I will find out for sure if they suffered any damage when the shop calls.

skydog 07-02-2014 01:29 PM

Piston tops should say it all...... See if they are steam cleaned man....

Baja226sport 07-02-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by skydog (Post 4147252)
Piston tops should say it all...... See if they are steam cleaned man....

The pistons that the rods broke actually do look a little cleaner than the rest. And I would assume the cylinders that I would call the center of the engine would get water first if it was sucking back through the exhaust as they are directly in line with the riser.

I could be wrong, still trying to figure this out to make sure it never happens again!

Budman II 07-02-2014 04:35 PM

Yep, #6 definitely looks steam cleaned to me, and 3 and 5 are suspect too.

Budman II 07-02-2014 04:41 PM

Any reason you are running a 6-quart pan on there instead of an 8 or 10? That is one thing I would change for the next motor, assuming you have room.

Baja226sport 07-02-2014 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by Budman II (Post 4147346)
Any reason you are running a 6-quart pan on there instead of an 8 or 10? That is one thing I would change for the next motor, assuming you have room.

Yes, the reason is that the person I got the boat from said they marineized 2 zz502's but really what they did was put 2 100% car engines in a boat. Proper oil pans are in the works!

payuppsucker 07-02-2014 05:25 PM

The absence of carbon deposits on the perimeter of the piston tops says detonation. When you take the pistons out I think you'll find the top ring land tried to lift.

Baja226sport 07-02-2014 06:08 PM

And what causes detonation?

Unlimited jd 07-02-2014 08:15 PM

Anyone think it started misfiring and the dead hole caused it to suck water back in? Usually happens with a valve issue but maybe the bad skip was causing it to pull water? I also agree that lowering the idle to 750 is better for bravos worse for reversion


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