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Old 07-02-2014 | 12:51 PM
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Are the ends of any valves broken off?
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Old 07-02-2014 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Wobble
Are the ends of any valves broken off?
No, no visible damage to the heads at all. They are being gone through now so I will find out for sure if they suffered any damage when the shop calls.
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Old 07-02-2014 | 01:29 PM
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Piston tops should say it all...... See if they are steam cleaned man....
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Old 07-02-2014 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by skydog
Piston tops should say it all...... See if they are steam cleaned man....
The pistons that the rods broke actually do look a little cleaner than the rest. And I would assume the cylinders that I would call the center of the engine would get water first if it was sucking back through the exhaust as they are directly in line with the riser.

I could be wrong, still trying to figure this out to make sure it never happens again!
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Old 07-02-2014 | 04:35 PM
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Yep, #6 definitely looks steam cleaned to me, and 3 and 5 are suspect too.
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Old 07-02-2014 | 04:41 PM
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Any reason you are running a 6-quart pan on there instead of an 8 or 10? That is one thing I would change for the next motor, assuming you have room.
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Old 07-02-2014 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Budman II
Any reason you are running a 6-quart pan on there instead of an 8 or 10? That is one thing I would change for the next motor, assuming you have room.
Yes, the reason is that the person I got the boat from said they marineized 2 zz502's but really what they did was put 2 100% car engines in a boat. Proper oil pans are in the works!
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Old 07-02-2014 | 05:25 PM
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The absence of carbon deposits on the perimeter of the piston tops says detonation. When you take the pistons out I think you'll find the top ring land tried to lift.
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Old 07-02-2014 | 06:08 PM
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And what causes detonation?
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Old 07-02-2014 | 08:15 PM
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Anyone think it started misfiring and the dead hole caused it to suck water back in? Usually happens with a valve issue but maybe the bad skip was causing it to pull water? I also agree that lowering the idle to 750 is better for bravos worse for reversion
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