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Originally Posted by Dpad
(Post 4170718)
To all that took the time to read my posts and help thank you. I was in info over load going both ways, the reason for this is this boat is more than just for fun.
This boat belonged to my uncle my nephew father who passed away a few years ago now his son has it and its means allot to both of us and getting it right means allot. I told him that his father is testing both of us his patience and my memory. The boat had a different owner for a few years until his son bought it back and things where changed, putting it back to the way it needs will be a process but at the end it will be well worth it. It’s a 24 ft super boat classic lines it’s a 79 and it’s a clean boat. I will post our progress over the next few weeks and I still may have a few questions. Oh Front seats I like to change them any recommendations on seats for this boat. There are square wood platforms that a seats can bolt to the wood framed seats have seen better days. |
well we found the problem the hard way, after doing all that was stated one thing was over looked the oil bypass valve we found the oil leak was the also the front of the pan.
So it was the oil by pass not allowing the oil to go into the cooler and we where cooking the oil in the motor the reason i never picked up on this was the motor never ran hot temp wise and the oil temp gauge was not working correctly, on the last run sat we idle out takes about 12 mins to hit the end of the harbor, I throttle up and off we went at 3k things where great motor sounded great all the gauges where on the money. Then i felt it and heard it a loud thump pulled power off we open the hatch and the motor turned off, There was a smell of burnt oil and smoke coming out thbreatherer caps. I pulled the dip stick and burnt my fingers it was so hot and the oil which was fresh was brown and smelled burnt nuts. I pulled the filtertler and a load of metal spun the main bearing. So now the motor is off to a marine racing engine builder to see how bad it is. might go 30 and super charge it what are the pros and cons of super charging |
I wouldn't feel too bad, from your initial description it sounded like the motor had already croaked, you just witnessed the funeral this weekend.
You will be much happier when you get this back from a REPUTABLE builder who rigs this motor properly and sends you out set up properly. As far as supercharging, what kind of boat is this and what speeds are you hoping to achieve? |
Originally Posted by Dpad
(Post 4177450)
well we found the problem the hard way, after doing all that was stated one thing was over looked the oil bypass valve we found the oil leak was the also the front of the pan.
So it was the oil by pass not allowing the oil to go into the cooler and we where cooking the oil in the motor the reason i never picked up on this was the motor never ran hot temp wise and the oil temp gauge was not working correctly, on the last run sat we idle out takes about 12 mins to hit the end of the harbor, I throttle up and off we went at 3k things where great motor sounded great all the gauges where on the money. Then i felt it and heard it a loud thump pulled power off we open the hatch and the motor turned off, There was a smell of burnt oil and smoke coming out thbreatherer caps. I pulled the dip stick and burnt my fingers it was so hot and the oil which was fresh was brown and smelled burnt nuts. I pulled the filtertler and a load of metal spun the main bearing. So now the motor is off to a marine racing engine builder to see how bad it is. might go 30 and super charge it what are the pros and cons of super charging Hopefully you learned a lesson ins boating. If a car has a problem, you can sometimes get away with still using it every day, rolling around being easy on it. Now take that car with a problem, and tow a heavy trailer up a hill all day at 3500 rpm, you won't make it far....and that is the load a boat puts on a engine. Get it right, put some time on it, learn from it without the supercharger. |
Originally Posted by donzi matt
(Post 4177473)
I wouldn't feel too bad, from your initial description it sounded like the motor had already croaked, you just witnessed the funeral this weekend.
You will be much happier when you get this back from a REPUTABLE builder who rigs this motor properly and sends you out set up properly. As far as supercharging, what kind of boat is this and what speeds are you hoping to achieve? that motor is long gone now the boat has Volvo 290 drive with D8 dual props we are going to D9 in the summer with the motor that was in it we tapped about 65 with ease i like to be in that range max out about 70/75 like to cruiz at 35 to 40 at 3k |
Adding that 5 mph is going to be expensive. Nevermind the motor mods, when you start hovering around 70mph you really need to seriously consider hydraulic steering. I don't even know where you would get such a critter for an old Volvo. I would forget all about the supercharger and start looking at a healthy NA motor. Since your crank is junk anyway you might as well stroke it out to a 540. Put a decent set of heads on it with a good roller cam and this motor is going to have more than enough steam to hit 70. A call to Bob Madara can get you on the road to a healthy build that will achieve what you want without the added complexity of supercharging. Be warned though, there is no cheap way to get reliable speed out of a boat. Everything needs to be quality - parts, the combination, machining, assembly, and rigging. Cheap on any aspect and you will experience failure all over again.
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Good call thanks 65 to 70 in a 24 ft boat is fast enough on the water ill stay with the 750 double pumper the intake we are using is off the original 427 motor which i understand is a OEM vet intake from 79 what type of head setup would you suggest and cam timing and duration now that we are going 30 over to a 540
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Um, 0.030 over will just take you to around 509 CI. You will need to add a 4.25 stroker crank to achieve 540 CI. If you do that, kiss that 750 cfm Holley goodbye, along with the 1960's era intake manifold. Even on a 502, the 750 will be too small - you run the risk of leaning it out and melting it down. I'm running a Holley 800 on a 489 (stroked 454), and I should probably be running something larger, like a 950 HP.
Stick with the 509, you will be happier. |
Originally Posted by Budman II
(Post 4169716)
Also, if this is a Gen V/VI, did the correct oil bypass valve get installed in the filter pad? Was this a marine engine originally, or did it come out of a car at some point. Lots of info on this forum about the bypass valve. If the small (11 lb) one is left in there, oil will bypass the filter and cooler, resulting in the ugly burnt up oil you saw and causing oil pressure issues when the oil heats up.
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Originally Posted by Budman II
(Post 4177563)
Um, 0.030 over will just take you to around 509 CI. You will need to add a 4.25 stroker crank to achieve 540 CI. If you do that, kiss that 750 cfm Holley goodbye, along with the 1960's era intake manifold. Even on a 502, the 750 will be too small - you run the risk of leaning it out and melting it down. I'm running a Holley 800 on a 489 (stroked 454), and I should probably be running something larger, like a 950 HP.
Stick with the 509, you will be happier. |
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