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Old 12-31-2014 | 01:40 PM
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Should've used a 741 cam. It's this decades 3/4 race cam from what I hear lol
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Old 12-31-2014 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by lil red
Should've used a 741 cam. It's this decades 3/4 race cam from what I hear lol
Screw it. Let's go 12.5:1 with a 502 mag cam and some peanut ports. Should be great pump gas poker run engine. esp with a nice leftover mix of 6 month old gas come spring. Lock the timing at 38 and have fun.
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Old 12-31-2014 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
Screw it. Let's go 12.5:1 with a 502 mag cam and some peanut ports. Should be great pump gas poker run engine. esp with a nice leftover mix of 6 month old gas come spring. Lock the timing at 38 and have fun.
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Old 12-31-2014 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by HaxbySpeed
S30, that's a pretty expensive set of heads to only make 740hp with. If that's all you were shooting for, the 325's out of the box would do it no problem.
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You've done this combo?what compr and rough cam spec?
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Old 12-31-2014 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by lil red
Should've used a 741 cam. It's this decades 3/4 race cam from what I hear lol
Why is everyone so obsessed with using an RV cam? I mean at least use something that has a nice idle and doesn't sound like an RV...
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Old 12-31-2014 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by fbc25el
Mr mayor, how was your service with your engine builder? I currently use a guy in indy but I am looking for a little closer shop. I met you a couple of years ago at Cumberland poker run we were at wolf creek with Tim & Terry. Fred.
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Old 12-31-2014 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sutphen 30
Really
You've done this combo?what compr and rough cam spec?
Yessir, 9.8 to 1, 89 octane, similar sized cam to what you're running, maybe a hair smaller. 2000cfm throttle body, Holley efi intake. It was a low rpm deal, made 770hp. I built a 600" with AFR 305's last year. I wouldn't try to argue with anyone that those are the right heads for a 600" motor, but it worked really well for it's application, and the throttle response was nothing short of violent. It made 705hp and 740 tq through a set of Dana's. I do a lot of engines for big white water jet boats that have a very narrow efficient rpm range so I experiment a lot with different combos. When the pump manufacturers are designing new impellers, they use a shaft dyno to calculate the KW absorption of the impeller. My dyno numbers always match the numbers in the boat. The 357's are a killer head, and a perfect match for a 598 if, in my opinion, you were shooting for 850-900hp. I was just saying that on an engine that mild, I couldn't see spending the money on them. I'd go with cheaper heads and buy shaft rockers instead.

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Old 12-31-2014 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by HaxbySpeed
S30, that's a pretty expensive set of heads to only make 740hp with. If that's all you were shooting for, the 325's out of the box would do it no problem.

Mayor, sounds like a great build, and is right where it should be on power with the components you used. Obviously there's a fair bit of power potential left with a cam swap, given the cubes and compression. But, realistically do you need any more? It will be a very reliable combo I'm sure.
Thanks and true for my boat and drive it is plenty and hope it last. I can't keep buying my wife anniversary gifts this expensive.

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Old 12-31-2014 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by HaxbySpeed
Yessir, 9.8 to 1, 89 octane, similar sized cam to what you're running, maybe a hair smaller. 2000cfm throttle body, Holley efi intake. It was a low rpm deal, made 770hp. I built a 600" with AFR 305's last year. I wouldn't try to argue with anyone that those are the right heads for a 600" motor, but it worked really well for it's application, and the throttle response was nothing short of violent. It made 705hp and 740 tq through a set of Dana's. I do a lot of engines for big white water jet boats that have a very narrow efficient rpm range so I experiment a lot with different combos. When the pump manufacturers are designing new impellers, they use a shaft dyno to calculate the KW absorption of the impeller. My dyno numbers always match the numbers in the boat. The 357's are a killer head, and a perfect match for a 598 if, in my opinion, you were shooting for 850-900hp. I was just saying that on an engine that mild, I couldn't see spending the money on them. I'd go with cheaper heads and buy shaft rockers instead.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=I1XC7qqFY9E
how are you getting away with 89 octane at 9.8:1 without a "kaboom"?
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Old 01-01-2015 | 11:22 AM
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I am running 10 to 1 on 89 - have for years. I only run 93 now because Sam's Club sells it for the same cost as 89. I do have the block zero decked. ( tight quench )
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