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MILD THUNDER 11-29-2014 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4227444)
Hey not trying to start anything at all like Ferguson III since II was last nite and 1 was the other nite. But if Borgie has some good info from Callies I would not mind to have it in a learning and or tech format posting if you know what I mean. Heck I try hard to post problem solving replies info up here but still like everyone else what to gather some good info to. That's it. Peace.

Lol Ferguson ....I too would like to see what Callie's says regarding the bolts and any documentation that goes with it.

Them simply saying "its OK" doesn't necessarily cut it for me. While I think Callie's makes a great product, I do not consider them God when it comes to rod bolts, especially in their China series of rods. With that being said , I doubt they would use the L19 exclusively in their rods if it was an issue. But, If I had a dollar for every company tech line who's recommendation was bogus, I'd be a rich man, def not a truck driver.

I'm sure you've seen plenty of marine engines that have ingested a bit of water at some point . if the moisture is a problem for those bolts, I'd be worried.

Seems like a lot of the builders use ARP2000, and when those aren't enough, they skip the L19s and go right to the custom age bolts. That is IF the rod can handle them. Which some rods simply can't physically take the additional clamping force needed to take advantage of the better bolts.

donzi matt 11-29-2014 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4227454)
But, If I had a dollar for every company tech line who's recommendation was bogus, I'd be a rich man, def not a truck driver.

Just call Comp Cams and ask them for a cam recommendation on a marine application. I am pretty sure the guy on the other end of the line I got was reading tarot cards.

BUP 11-29-2014 07:24 PM

MT really looking at the info persay Callies view point / tech format info to compared to ARP and other connecting rod suppliers.

MILD THUNDER 11-29-2014 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by the deep (Post 4227453)
Would it be a true statement that the film strength of your oil , oil pressure/volume and your choice of rod bearing/clearance will absorb some of said stresses before being transferred to the rod bolts . If you were to stretch a rod bolt from on/off throttling I would think you have already damaged the bearing first ?

I get what your asking. I do not know if the forces are great enough to break that hydrodynamic wedge , but detonation sure will

BUP 11-29-2014 07:26 PM

Or better yet call Merc funny how things have change with the tech help line especially for dealers.

MILD THUNDER 11-29-2014 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4227458)
MT really looking at the info persay Callies view point to compared to ARP and other connecting rod suppliers.

I agree. Lots of rod manufactures making good rods these days. I know Manley stopped using the L19 in their rods, why I don't know. You have oliver, carillo, K1, scat, eagle, Howards, lunati, etc. I wonder what their thoughts on the L19 is? The L19 surely is cost effective with great clamping force and fatigue, just not sure why anyone would use the 2000 bolts since the cost difference is minimal

BUP 11-29-2014 07:33 PM

Have to ask as I know at one time Eagle had some problems and I can not remember 100% but I think it was with crankshafts not rods Correct - is there still problems with their cranks and how about their rods ? .

Black Baja 11-29-2014 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4227458)
MT really looking at the info persay Callies view point / tech format info to compared to ARP and other connecting rod suppliers.

I'm sure they were thinking they had a brilliant sucker on the phone and wanted to get rid of the l19s they had laying around because nobody uses them. Blew some smoke up his azz to get them off the shelf...

Black Baja 11-29-2014 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4227463)
Have to ask as I know at one time Eagle had some problems and I can not remember 100% but I think it was with crankshafts not rods Correct - is there still problems with their cranks and how about their rods ? .

In the beginning you couldn't even bolt an Eagle rod on a crank because they were so out of round. This is not the case anymore. Now there crank journals are all over the place.

stimleck 11-29-2014 07:40 PM

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