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Big cube n/a combo's
Been interested in some of the big naturally aspirated combos lately. What have you guys done? What's the most someone has made with a single 1050/1150? Anyone switched to a big throttle body on the same intake and made any gains?
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I will report back in a month or so I had to drive 5 hours last nite to pick my block up. Had the cam tunnel bored out. Got about 5 hours of driving on Sunday to get the block to the next shop to CNC the lifter bores, install lifter bushings, CNC piston bores, hone and re-balance the motor because I just spent a small fortune on a new set of Pistons with all the fancy stuff done to them. This has been a very expensive upgrade especially when you add in my time running around, fuel and $200 citation I got in Pennsylvania. So we will see what happens on the dyno.
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How much power are you aiming for?
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I think it will go 950 no problem if I put some vacuum on it should be closer to 1000. Everything will be in place to pull vacuum just little nervous about it because of things I've read from people that probably don't have a clue what they are talking about or any buisness discussing it but we will see. It's alot of money and I'm by no means a big money guy cant afford to build another one.
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I'm using a conventional head might I add.
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Originally Posted by Black Baja
(Post 4251184)
I think it will go 950 no problem if I put some vacuum on it should be closer to 1000. Everything will be in place to pull vacuum just little nervous about it because of things I've read from people that probably don't have a clue what they are talking about or any buisness discussing it but we will see. It's alot of money and I'm by no means a big money guy cant afford to build another one.
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Originally Posted by Black Baja
(Post 4251146)
I will report back in a month or so I had to drive 5 hours last nite to pick my block up. Had the cam tunnel bored out. Got about 5 hours of driving on Sunday to get the block to the next shop to CNC the lifter bores, install lifter bushings, CNC piston bores, hone and re-balance the motor because I just spent a small fortune on a new set of Pistons with all the fancy stuff done to them. This has been a very expensive upgrade especially when you add in my time running around, fuel and $200 citation I got in Pennsylvania. So we will see what happens on the dyno.
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Tunnel ram?
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Originally Posted by KWright
(Post 4251210)
Do your research on vacuum and wrist pin oiling, if your going to have extended periods of time at wide open throttle. Sounds like a cool build.
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Originally Posted by Black Baja
(Post 4251237)
No problem DLC coated pins. Moly on the skirts. It's not an uncommon thing with these kinds of motors. I think the biggest thing is weeding out all the misinformation on the Internet. It's just like using a Titanium intake valve. I've even said it myself that it shouldn't be done. But it is being used has been being used with great success. But it's not accepted by the "main stream" internet voice. Should it be used in every marine engine hell no. It costs a fortune and in most applications not needed. But in the right application used properly the pros out weigh the cons and it can be used with success. Does every motor need a dry sump? No, but some do. I think I'm at that point with my combination. I think the you can't do this and you can't do that crowd does a big dis-service to the community when they really have no clue what they are talking about. I'm guilty of it. One thing I've learned getting into this project is the more I have an open mind about it the more I learn.
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632
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I thought you were talking big, 7-800 cid, 10.6 block ?
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Originally Posted by GPM
(Post 4251401)
10.6 block ?
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Just buy one of these, http://www.sonnysracingengines.com/b...-marine-engine the 10.2 block doesn't leave much room for a decent rod. Best of luck to you and your build !
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Originally Posted by GPM
(Post 4251404)
Just buy one of these, http://www.sonnysracingengines.com/b...-marine-engine the 10.2 block doesn't leave much room for a decent rod. Best of luck to you and your build !
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What induction ?
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No, and I wasn't being smart about it, the biggest one we did was 615 with the 4.625 crank.
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Originally Posted by lil red
(Post 4251409)
What induction ?
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Originally Posted by lil red
(Post 4251409)
What induction ?
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Originally Posted by GPM
(Post 4251410)
No, and I wasn't being smart about it, the biggest one we did was 615 with the 4.625 crank.
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[ATTACH=CONFIG]535793[/ATTACH]I think if you are running vacuum on your engine you might run into starving your valve guides of oil. I am running 15" of vacuum with dry sump pump on my engines and I sealed off the lifter valley from the crank case so the valve guides don't get starved has a pick up in the lifter valley for oil. Are you running piston oilers? Might want to have them to keep the pistons cool since there will be less oil splash.
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Can you tell me more about the carb and intake? I haven't seen anything sub 7000 rpm make that power without dual carbs. I may be doing a 604 project, looking for 800-850. And was thinking I might have to run 2 850-950's on a tunnel ram.
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Originally Posted by lil red
(Post 4251423)
Can you tell me more about the carb and intake? I haven't seen anything sub 7000 rpm make that power without dual carbs. I may be doing a 604 project, looking for 800-850. And was thinking I might have to run 2 850-950's on a tunnel ram.
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Originally Posted by lil red
(Post 4251423)
Can you tell me more about the carb and intake? I haven't seen anything sub 7000 rpm make that power without dual carbs. I may be doing a 604 project, looking for 800-850. And was thinking I might have to run 2 850-950's on a tunnel ram.
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Originally Posted by lil red
(Post 4251423)
Can you tell me more about the carb and intake? I haven't seen anything sub 7000 rpm make that power without dual carbs. I may be doing a 604 project, looking for 800-850. And was thinking I might have to run 2 850-950's on a tunnel ram.
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Originally Posted by Black Baja
(Post 4251421)
The rod/ crank angle doesn't bother me a bit. The piston speed scares the piss out of me. When I tore it down this time if I felt there was going to be any issue from the 4.750 crank I would have changed it. But it looked better than a 598 with a 6.635 rod in it so we are going to go with it despite the peanut gallery that has never built one b4.
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Originally Posted by GPM
(Post 4251430)
I ran the 6.8 rod with the BB2, had to go with 6.7 for the Dukes in my 598. I wanted to build a 706 just for fun but ran out of steam. Run what you want, it's supposed to be fun.
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Originally Posted by Black Baja
(Post 4251186)
I'm using a conventional head might I add.
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Originally Posted by 14 apache
(Post 4251438)
Stock 26* valve angle or 24* How many cc is the intake runner?
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Originally Posted by 14 apache
(Post 4251428)
Do you have room under your hatches for tunnel rams?
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Originally Posted by Black Baja
(Post 4251429)
EDelbrock SV-632 1150 ultra Dominator cnc porting. If you want less rpm to make the same horsepower you need more cubic inch and you will make more torque. A 632 with a conventional head will never go over 7000.I wouldn't build a 604.
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Originally Posted by Black Baja
(Post 4251429)
EDelbrock SV-632 1150 ultra Dominator cnc porting. If you want less rpm to make the same horsepower you need more cubic inch and you will make more torque. A 632 with a conventional head will never go over 7000.I wouldn't build a 604.
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Originally Posted by lil red
(Post 4251452)
It's not my first choice but it will work. Bought complete motors with Hyd rollers. Refreshing them, going solid roller. Never said 632 going over 7000, just saying in general haven't seen any single 4500 stuff make the power below 7000 rpm. So since that was your goal I was interested in it and looking forward to learning about. Sorry if I struck a nerve
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Thank you will send you pm
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Originally Posted by lil red
(Post 4251218)
Tunnel ram?
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Originally Posted by Rookie
(Post 4251498)
Twin 1000cfm throttle bodies. Not big cubes 565cu/in.
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Originally Posted by 14 apache
(Post 4251502)
What computer sequential injection?
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Originally Posted by Rookie
(Post 4251510)
Haltech and I don't know the answer. I think batched.
and a crank trigger. Nice motor what's it in? How does it run? |
Originally Posted by 14 apache
(Post 4251515)
One giveaway if it has wires going to distributor.
and a crank trigger. Nice motor what's it in? How does it run? |
Originally Posted by Rookie
(Post 4251524)
'92, 27' Fountain straight bottom. Scares the He|| out of 100mph. It's member JimV's (Valako) engine.
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