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Black Baja 03-08-2015 02:31 PM

Why not step up to a 4.375 stroke?

Tinkerer 03-08-2015 06:09 PM

Been told by many that it is not a good rod ratio. These are stock standard deck blocks.

Black Baja 03-08-2015 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by Tinkerer (Post 4275668)
Been told by many that it is not a good rod ratio. These are stock standard deck blocks.

Sounds like the many you talked to arent very good at math and dont know what they are talking about.

SB 03-08-2015 06:27 PM

I have a harder time with people running 4.5" strokes in standard height (aftermarket) blocks, but a handful do.

Many people running 555's too, even in 502 blocks. IMHO wouldn't worry about it...especially marine rpms.

Tinkerer 03-08-2015 06:46 PM

SB - I plan on turning this engine at least 6500 RPM.

Rookie 03-08-2015 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by Black Baja (Post 4275675)
Sounds like the many you talked to arent very good at math and dont know what they are talking about.

Please enlighten others. I've talked about doing 4.375's for a while, but everyone I talk to says it's a death sentence in a longevity marine engine. Drag racing all day, but not marine.
If Tinkerer wants I will move to it's own thread.

getrdunn 03-08-2015 07:39 PM

Just out of curiosity what did Jim and bob think? U did ask them right? I know Jim has done a ton of 540 heads and builds. You gonna dyno it?

Black Baja 03-08-2015 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by Rookie (Post 4275705)
Please enlighten others. I've talked about doing 4.375's for a while, but everyone I talk to says it's a death sentence in a longevity marine engine. Drag racing all day, but not marine.
If Tinkerer wants I will move to it's own thread.

4.375/4.250=1.5% (increase in crank angle)
6.385/4.250=1.5 (Rod ratio 4.25 crank)
6.385/4.375=1.45 (Rod ratio 4.375)
These numbers are so close it's not gonna affect anything (except the peanut gallery). Where it gets better is you are moving the pin up in the piston .0625 which makes a lighter piston. The less weight you have at the end of the rod the better off you are. The 4.375 is a better motor.

Rookie 03-08-2015 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by Black Baja (Post 4275727)
4.375/4.250=1.5% (increase in crank angle)
6.385/4.250=1.5 (Rod ratio 4.25 crank)
6.385/4.375=1.45 (Rod ratio 4.375)
These numbers are so close it's not gonna affect anything (except the peanut gallery). Where it gets better is you are moving the pin up in the piston .075 which makes a lighter piston. The less weight you have at the end of the rod the better off you are. The 4.375 is a better motor.

I agree and some will build it, but I don't know anyone that will stand behind it.
Also, it might only be an increase in 1.5% as you stated. But, 1.3% might be over the critical angle. (The limit) I have no clue, just stating for discussion not argument:)

Tinkerer 03-08-2015 08:30 PM

I haven't talked to anyone outside of these websites.
I have just been kicking a few thoughts around. I plan on building the 598 but don't really want it yet. I have a lot of other things that I need to do to the Daytona that are going to be pricey. The 598 is going to be over $20,000 in parts alone.
If I can rebuild the spare 502 and go from 650 to 800 HP I would be real happy with that and the other changes to the boat. and it would cost only about $5,000 to do it. I was thinking that if I can just replace the crank, rods, cam, lifters and the other wear parts. I was hoping to reuse the pistons I have now.
I could probably get this all done and put it together before spring. I have good heads ( they may need to have some of the wedges ground out ) and a good intake and carb. I need to upgrade the ignition system. I plan on getting a crank sensor. ( last summer when I was checking my total timing - above 3000 RPM it was all over the place.


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