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MILD THUNDER 03-19-2015 08:39 AM

How about dynoing with your 800, and again with a dominator. Takes 5 minutes to swap carbs. See if its worth it to you or not. I'm sure someone has a carb u can borrow for the dyno

I look at it this way. You built new 540s to replace the old 548's that made 600hp. You spent a lot on new cylinder heads, paid extra for the CNC chamber porting, a custom cam for the engine , all in an effort to improve airflow. Why stop at the carb? If the heads (just throwing numbers out there ) are worth 25hp over the old heads, and the custom cams worth 25 HP over the old cams, what if your carbs are gonna cost you to lose 25hp? When you add it all up the carb upgrade would have been the cheapest power upgrade out of the package. Now if its 10hp then maybe not worth it.

On a 6000rpm 540 with AFR heads and a custom cam, making say around 700hp, you just may see a nice jump in power by bolting on a dominator. 600hp 540, prob not. Have guys made great power with 4150s, of course. Only way to know is to test. If your on the dyno and get your carb tuned at say 12.5 Afr at 6000, and swap it out for a dominator, you'll have to tune the dominator for a 12.5 Afr at 6000 as well for a direct comparison. I've seen where guys did this test, had the 4150 tuned perfect, then slapped a dusty old dominator on with a pig rich setup, see no gains or even losses, and say the dominator sucked. Not a fair comparison.

vintage chromoly 03-19-2015 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4280958)
I know Dale is a go to guy for cars not sure about boats, none of my past engines needed crazy tuning or a big carb, my 600's ran sweet with hp500 carbs with doing wot runs **** off then pull plugs... But in this case I wanna make sure I don't starve engines for air or fuel, I can run my 800's to get by if needed I built engines around using dominator or equivalent ... I don't wanna spend lots of money and be close to max, rather have room for later ...

Guys say 900 is enough, others say 1050+ very respected people told me Dominators.... It's not really the carb being issue I wanna know if I am keeping my intakes or not...

The phone call is free tim. Ask him about boat carbs. He's a super easy to talk with guy.
You'll learn more about carburetors in 1/2 hours than you can imagine.

ICDEDPPL 03-19-2015 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by vintage chromoly (Post 4280942)
Not yet.
He set it up with a base setup from the info I provided.
It will be furthur tuned on the dyno .

I would say you can only recommend him based on reputation at this point without any empirical evidence.

The Quick fuels are really nice units, still confused how they had perfect AFR`s on the dyno for a 1200hp motor and a 1000hp motor out of the box with no changes.
Tim, I`d say you`d be perfectly fine with a QF 1050
Thy`re real preeeeety too

http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s7/...85452969-3.jpg

Full Force 03-19-2015 08:59 AM

So to me the Dominators are better choice overall for ease of approaching my goal...

sutphen 30 03-19-2015 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4280972)
How about dynoing with your 800, and again with a dominator. Takes 5 minutes to swap carbs. See if its worth it to you or not. I'm sure someone has a carb u can borrow for the dyno

thats what I would do.my bet,the dom will win.

ezstriper 03-19-2015 09:03 AM

at the RPM you are going to run max and that power 4150 will be fine..contact patrick @ prosystems

Full Force 03-19-2015 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4280972)
How about dynoing with your 800, and again with a dominator. Takes 5 minutes to swap carbs. See if its worth it to you or not. I'm sure someone has a carb u can borrow for the dyno

I look at it this way. You built new 540s to replace the old 548's that made 600hp. You spent a lot on new cylinder heads, paid extra for the CNC chamber porting, a custom cam for the engine , all in an effort to improve airflow. Why stop at the carb? If the heads (just throwing numbers out there ) are worth 25hp over the old heads, and the custom cams worth 25 HP over the old cams, what if your carbs are gonna cost you to lose 25hp? When you add it all up the carb upgrade would have been the cheapest power upgrade out of the package. Now if its 10hp then maybe not worth it.

On a 6000rpm 540 with AFR heads and a custom cam, making say around 700hp, you just may see a nice jump in power by bolting on a dominator. 600hp 540, prob not. Have guys made great power with 4150s, of course. Only way to know is to test. If your on the dyno and get your carb tuned at say 12.5 Afr at 6000, and swap it out for a dominator, you'll have to tune the dominator for a 12.5 Afr at 6000 as well for a direct comparison. I've seen where guys did this test, had the 4150 tuned perfect, then slapped a dusty old dominator on with a pig rich setup, see no gains or even losses, and say the dominator sucked. Not a fair comparison.

No I agree Joe I was just getting more opinions, I will be going dominator because every person said it's gonna be better overall cost and tuning, my biggest concern was height but I think you said only like 1/2" taller? I can make that work I think ....I do not plan on running my 800's unless I run out of
Money and wanna get boat going because I can swap I takes and carbs mid summer easily... I know the 800's are way to small...

Full Force 03-19-2015 09:10 AM

I just wanted to see more opinions that's all with proven combos if possible

fbc25el 03-19-2015 09:15 AM

What manifold are you looking at?

endeavor1 03-19-2015 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4280958)

Guys say 900 is enough, others say 1050+ very respected people told me Dominators.... It's not really the carb being issue I wanna know if I am keeping my intakes or not...

Rehr Morrison makes a 4500 to 4150 flange adapter so don't worry too much about that.


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