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All things being equal, I'd be willing to bet the 8:1 engine with 7psi will make more power than the 9:1 engine at 5psi.

Crutching the blower with more compression works great with a 177. Simply because 7psi isn't an option. Well, you could overdrive it engough to make 7psi, but its past the blowers efficiency , and a waste of time . so 9:1 and 5lbs works best. the 250 will be OK at 7psi, but that's about as hard as I'd push it. I wouldn't run 7psi with 9:1 and the 250. I've done it, but its not what I'd recommend to a buddy.
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
Jegs and summit have those pulleys. 155192 is the 3", 155193 is 3.34" if I recall. The 3.34 made about 5psi on mine, and 155192 about 7psi.

If you end up going low compression, the 192 pulley would be my pick. 9:1, I'd run the 193 pulley.

If the heads are bare, and need assembly, how about a flat top with some milling of the heads? Those race series heads have thick decks, and can be milled a bit more than the pro 1 series. Down to 105cc /.070
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
All things being equal, I'd be willing to bet the 8:1 engine with 7psi will make more power than the 9:1 engine at 5psi.

Crutching the blower with more compression works great with a 177. Simply because 7psi isn't an option. Well, you could overdrive it engough to make 7psi, but its past the blowers efficiency , and a waste of time . so 9:1 and 5lbs works best. the 250 will be OK at 7psi, but that's about as hard as I'd push it. I wouldn't run 7psi with 9:1 and the 250. I've done it, but its not what I'd recommend to a buddy.
That sheds a lot of light on things, Joe. Almost like a light bulb going off!
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
All things being equal, I'd be willing to bet the 8:1 engine with 7psi will make more power than the 9:1 engine at 5psi.

Crutching the blower with more compression works great with a 177. Simply because 7psi isn't an option. Well, you could overdrive it engough to make 7psi, but its past the blowers efficiency , and a waste of time . so 9:1 and 5lbs works best. the 250 will be OK at 7psi, but that's about as hard as I'd push it. I wouldn't run 7psi with 9:1 and the 250. I've done it, but its not what I'd recommend to a buddy.
Yes. 5 psi should be good for 34% more power, 7psi for 47%. The 1 point of compression is generally worth 4%. So maybe 9% more power with the low compression high boost scenario?
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I have a set of standard pistons marked 14097021 if they will help you out. They are stock out of a 454 mag and still have the rods attached.
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I hate dipping into this stuff so late at nite but i swore the merc bbc blower builds had quite a dish in the piston to hit that 7.5 with off the shelf heads .could almost do a good shot of whiskey out of one . If it was clean .
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That is correct. Here is a pic of one[ATTACH=CONFIG]539079[/ATTACH] But on second thought, this is a pic of a 502 blower piston, not a 454.
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I believe the 525sc has a very similar piston to that one cannot remember the chamber volume but they were also set to 7.5 to 1
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