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Budman II 05-27-2015 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by bustedbrick (Post 4309156)
That's a cool looking boat! Before starting it, I'd pull the distributors and get oil pressure with a drill motor. Mark exactly where the housing and rotor were before pulling them out and they'll go back in easy after you line up tang in the oil pump shaft. If you really stumbled on a pair of low hour mercs, to me it would be worth the effort. After you do this (AFTER distributors are back in), gently make sure they turn though a rotation by using a breaker bar on the front pulley bolt. Much easier to do this with plugs out. Randy

Good advice, Randy. I would also squirt some oil or Marvel Mystery Oil down each plug hole before turning it over.

250ekelly 05-27-2015 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by Budman II (Post 4309189)
BTW, I am very curious about that square thing on the port side stern. It almost looks like some kind of heat exchanger. What is that?

Its a faucet to wash off with. PIMPIN in 1990. :cool-smiley-011:

Budman II 05-27-2015 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by 250ekelly (Post 4309199)
Its a faucet to wash off with. PIMPIN in 1990. :cool-smiley-011:

Ahhh, a stern shower. Sweet! You can just hose down the swim platform after all of the late night shenanigans! :D

92nsx 05-27-2015 10:52 AM

I like the boat. Totally different then you see every day. It would be a great sand bar boat. No need for a ladder. Looks like the transom steps will be at or just below water level.
If the engines check out you should be on the water pretty cheap.
Chances are the cuddy is still good and usable. Will just need a good cleaning (give that project to the girlfriend :) ) Then just have to redo the cockpit upholstery/rear sun pad. You will probabley have a couple electrical gremlins but they can be worked out, along with a new stereo.

BUP 05-27-2015 01:58 PM

Just saying find it a tad odd that the seller and the guy selling the boat no one knew what brand nor model of the boat - does this boat even have a title - all of that info should be listed on the title. If I did not answer in POST 6 would the possible buyer and seller know still today what and who made this boat and where ? I would make sure all the paper work is there and the boat is not in hiding with a lien on it - just saying. Anything is possible in today world and still find it a tad bit odd no one knew what the boat brand is nor model at the very least from anyone who is selling it. - until post 6.

the race boat was a one off from the owner of company at that time - Kirkland was his name - the race boat was made different than the production boat. There is wood in that boat and so is the transom - stingers and so on. Just saying. If you the sale does not happen - I would like to see if the guy I know whats to buy it or however splash it. He is looking for something with a step in it, plus possible to improve upon.

It would be cool some of these older boats, possible being made again and offered to whomever at a decent price brand new. Just saying once again.

Budman II 05-27-2015 02:24 PM

BUP, while you are at it, can you have your friend build a copy of the old Baja 265 hull, but with the 24* bottom on the sport boats? Love the room on those boats, but it needs a smoother ride. ;)

250ekelly 05-27-2015 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4309397)
Just saying find it a tad odd that the seller and the guy selling the boat no one knew what brand nor model of the boat - does this boat even have a title - all of that info should be listed on the title. If I did not answer in POST 6 would the possible buyer and seller know still today what and who made this boat and where ? I would make sure all the paper work is there and the boat is not in hiding with a lien on it - just saying. Anything is possible in today world and still find it a tad bit odd no one knew what the boat brand is nor model at the very least from anyone who is selling it. - until post 6.

the race boat was a one off from the owner of company at that time - Kirkland was his name - the race boat was made different than the production boat. There is wood in that boat and so is the transom - stingers and so on. Just saying. If you the sale does not happen - I would like to see if the guy I know whats to buy it or however slash it. He is looking for something with a step in it, plus possible to improve upon.

It would be cool some of these older boats, possible being made again and offered to whomever at a decent price brand new. Just saying once again.

Yr right the next thing is the paper work. I'm going to find out Friday. It's hard to get any where with these people when you work out of town. I'm guessing if he made a reproduction of the hull this hull would be trashed??

BUP 05-27-2015 04:18 PM

Just watching your back. I can not tell you some of the shady paperwork that can take place with boat deals. And changed HIN or missing HIN numbers. Make sure the paperwork matches the HIN on the back of the boat Just saying.

Anything is possible to splash a hull if it is not made anymore and or no patents.

BBCLiberator 06-15-2015 09:38 PM

Any update on this? Curious about it...

250ekelly 06-16-2015 05:07 AM

I found out what the lady owes on the boat. I don't want to say on here but it's more than 3 times what I'm willing to pay. She won't take less than 11k. It's still sitting under the barn and will be there for awhile. No one is gonna pay that kind of money.

BBCLiberator 06-16-2015 07:22 AM

To bad, I think that would have been a cool project. Certainly some risk involved, but for the right price....I'd still leave your contact information. I mean they have to realize making payments on that thing are outright stupid, or you would think...

250ekelly 06-16-2015 08:10 AM

Yea man for sure.
It ain't going no where it's sitting in my buddies barn he's helping her sell it. Kind of a weird situation.
If you owe that much on something why do you let it sit like that. I told her the interior needs 10k and she says I redid the interior once my self it's not that hard blah blah. I'm hoping it will sit there 6 more months and by then begging me for 5k lol

rak rua 06-16-2015 08:18 AM

Unless 250ekelly has other info, my guess is................

The boat's been sitting for a long time, payments have stopped long ago and the bank has defaulted the owner. She hasn't got spare cash to make payments so her credit rating is smashed. the only way to restore her credit status to some degree is to pay the full amount so she is sticking to her asking figure (or close).
The banks' only further recourse is to repo the boat but that would be a waste of their time and they know it. Spend a thousands or two on towing it away and storing it somewhere else then advertising it for auction in the hope of getting someone to pay a considerable sum of cash. The bank knows it won't happen so they just leave it sit with a default in place. If the lady flukes a good sale then everyone wins but more than likely, it will be left to sit and deteriorate further.

Sad story, probably a lovely lady in a tight spot and no easy way out. I wish the owner all the best and hope something happens to help her out very soon.

If I'm way wrong, unreserved apologies to all concerned.

RR

250ekelly 06-16-2015 09:33 AM

Interesting observation rak rua... Maybe that's why she has it stored at my buddies. She may be trying to hide it.

rak rua 06-17-2015 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by 250ekelly (Post 4318272)
Interesting observation rak rua... Maybe that's why she has it stored at my buddies. She may be trying to hide it.

Not wanting to sound harsh but she's got nothing to hide. The bank doesn't want it. They hope she can move it and then pay the loan. If they take the boat, she is 'sort of clear' and then the bank is stuck with it.

I think if she could come to terms with it's true value, she'd probably just let it go rather than have the lingering debt.

Again, just my guess.

RR

airjunky 06-17-2015 09:20 AM

Oh the fustration . I know where there is one like that real close to me . Sitting for years , broken stringer goldmine in parts big time , boat is paid for ,she wants 3 times what im willing to offer , offer being 1/3 of what the boat would be worth with good floors -stringers ,interior and turn key.

250ekelly 06-17-2015 09:54 AM

Well i'll will be harsh. I don't feel bad for the owner at all. They get what they deserve. They were stupid for letting it sit and go to crap. If you take out a 40000 dollar loan pay half of it over 10 years let boat go to crap then expect some one to pay the loan off for you your crazy.

Budman II 06-17-2015 09:55 AM

Reminds me of the owners of old musclecars that are rotting away in their back yard - they refuse to sell for a reasonable price because they are "planning to restore it" someday. With a boat in particular, the longer she waits the further the value is going to fall.

turbom700 06-17-2015 12:13 PM

Maybe I'm missing something here, but if that boat went to auction(after being repo) I can see it easily bring 11k(more then likely what she owe on it).

I would offer her 11k today in one condition that if the motors dont run I dont buy the boat. I would be willing to put some time into getting them running even if they dont at the end of the day.

Really fresh gas from a 3 gallon outboard tank, fresh battery,maybe pull the dist. and prime the oiling system, and see if they will light off. Might need carb work but new carbs would be less then 1k.

250ekelly 06-17-2015 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by turbom700 (Post 4318931)
Maybe I'm missing something here, but if that boat went to auction(after being repo) I can see it easily bring 11k(more then likely what she owe on it).

I would offer her 11k today in one condition that if the motors dont run I dont buy the boat. I would be willing to put some time into getting them running even if they dont at the end of the day.

Really fresh gas from a 3 gallon outboard tank, fresh battery,maybe pull the dist. and prime the oiling system, and see if they will light off. Might need carb work but new carbs would be less then 1k.

If she hears them run that price is going up

250ekelly 06-17-2015 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by Budman II (Post 4318872)
Reminds me of the owners of old musclecars that are rotting away in their back yard - they refuse to sell for a reasonable price because they are "planning to restore it" someday. With a boat in particular, the longer she waits the further the value is going to fall.


Yea its frustrating when I have the money to buy it and fix it. And the motivation.

turbom700 06-17-2015 12:22 PM

Written contract stating that I will buy X boat with HIN # if after X date and X time motor run with my labor. If after X date and X time motors do not run the contract is void.

Have done this with other Power Sport toys and has worked out in my favor.

Really you need a few hrs to see if the motors atleast run.

If care was taken when they were put away, and they were not blowing up before they were put away, I'm guessing they are fine.

I got my dads first car running a few yrs back after sitting for 40yrs. Oil down the cylinders rebuilt the carb, primed the oil system and fresh gas she fired right up.Granted it needs alot of other work but it atleast starts.

F-2 Speedy 06-17-2015 12:27 PM

What's the length, the bottom is cleaner than my Gun lol........... I would also verify the pay off with the bank and see if the bank would release the title for less $$

250ekelly 06-17-2015 12:40 PM

Turbom700 that's a good idea I'll give that a try. And yr in box is full

33outlawsst its 30 or 32 I can't remember I measured it few weeks ago. And yr right getting the title from the bank still could be problem. I'll do some investigating this weekend.

turbom700 06-17-2015 12:43 PM

Its empty now

BUP 06-17-2015 12:55 PM

Like I said I find it odd that a seller and buyer has to ask what kind of boat is this. The seller can not provide paperwork and a lien release for the boat they are selling ???? Also the proper paperwork should have all the info what the boat is and the engines. Even if the a lien was on the boat they still should have some form of paper work and a Non Negotiable title of paperwork stating what the boat is and who is the lien holder.

I have boat dealer LIC and Manufacturer LIC so I deal with boat paperwork all the time - well not so much as of late.

Would you be willing to give me the name of the owner / seller here if there is no way you end up with the boat. Like I said I do know someone who is moving to TN and would probable splash the hull. I could careless if the boat runs or not plus maybe down the road make this a turn key key boat for whomever. I think it would be cool to try to bring an older style hull / boat to market from a splash if all possible and hopefully a reasonable price on a new version. Thanks.

turbom700 06-17-2015 12:57 PM

I call second dibs if the op doesnt buy it. :)

BUP 06-17-2015 01:08 PM

Great let the guy I know make the new hulls or a new turn key boat and everyone has a shot to buy one. I think that sounds like a good idea.

Buy the new versions how ever you want - bare hull or complete

I do know he is set up for infusion and has a professional interior place in TN to do that end of it as well.

250ekelly 06-17-2015 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4318962)
Like I said I find it odd that a seller and buyer has to ask what kind of boat is this. The seller can not provide paperwork and a lien release for the boat they are selling ???? Also the proper paperwork should have all the info what the boat is and the engines. Even if the a lien was on the boat they still should have some form of paper work and a Non Negotiable title of paperwork stating what the boat is and who is the lien holder.

I have boat dealer LIC and Manufacturer LIC so I deal with boat paperwork all the time - well not so much as of late.

Would you be willing to give me the name of the owner / seller here if there is no way you end up with the boat. Like I said I do know someone who is moving to TN and would probable splash the hull. I could careless if the boat runs or not plus maybe down the road make this a turn key key boat for whomever. I think it would be cool to try to bring an older style hull / boat to market from a splash if all possible and hopefully a reasonable price on a new version. Thanks.

Well I posted it up here because I thought people would find it interesting. It's a old lady she said it's a century. She didn't have paper work with her. I never heard of a century and I thought it was interesting so I posted it on here.

tommymonza 06-17-2015 04:19 PM

it is a Century Ultra 2 I believe .

30 years ago my brother made a mold off our 26 Monza and than built a new updated deck for it. He soon shut the doors and sold the molds to the guy who built the molds and that guy sold them to Century boats . A few years later Century updated the deck design again and built the integrated swim platform .

I didn't know they ever built a ventilated bottom though.

BUP 06-17-2015 04:37 PM

Ultra III

THIS BOAT was made in June 1990 and I believe was hull # 50.

Centerline length 31 ft
Beam = 8 ft 4 inches
weight = was with no engines 3788 lbs
cabin headroom 4.7
cockpit length 7.10
cockpit width 6.4
cockpit depth 3.10
draft 2.3 somewhat shallow

fuel cap = 105 gallons
engines options at that time were 5.7 L or 7.4 L
fresh water cap 32 gallons

VDO gauges were standard and so was Porta Potti

Century and Glasstream was owned by A. L. Kirkland Jr.

Post # 6 has more info.

Wonder if I know about the boat than the owner.

tommymonza 06-17-2015 04:49 PM

Dont believe it is 30 feet. If it is I have never seen one before and I have seen quite a few of the old ultras around.

BUP 06-17-2015 04:57 PM

Ultra II was 27.2 with a 8 ft beam. Ultra II did not have engine compartment vents like that. The Ultra III did.

But I found a pic to see what matches

BUP 06-17-2015 05:06 PM

http://www.lakewideyachtbrokerage.com/1507.htm

250ekelly 06-17-2015 05:10 PM

Wow that's cool. BUP you have a lot of good information, thanks for sharing it. This boat deff is 31 fit long. What about the step? Did all the ultra III,s come with the step?

BUP 06-17-2015 05:26 PM

Bow Winds in Michigan and Century shared some of the molds really do not know the full story here.

Yes the step was there for Century. The Ultra III boat was not that fast by no means but did well in straight line in the water. I do know the boats of Century and have driven the Ultra's 1 and II and a III way back in the day.

the hull can be improved on and that why I was asking if no sale then I think the guy I know would splash one and improve upon. .

250ekelly 06-17-2015 05:54 PM

I seen that ad said top speed 58 miles per hour. Kinda disappointing. Like I said the boats at my friends house about 20 miles away so I will definitely let you know something about that for your buddy BUP.

BUP 06-17-2015 06:33 PM

A person I knew very well way back then was a pretty big Glasstream dealer 1980's and 1990's. I was just getting into the boat business end of 1990 and started out with used boats plus service. Anyways back in 1990 or 1991 he looked at the Century boat line in which was more upscale line compared to Glasstream to bring into his dealership as well.

I got to drive a lot of the models back then and if I recall the Century Ultra III and it had 7.4 s in it, driving it the speedo said 62 or 65 but it felt more like 55 MAX what I remembered. I do remember this because I thought this boat should be faster than this.

All speedo's back then were really way off hence the word dream - o - meter came about. Also back then we would have police officers who owned boats / friends radar us sometimes on land. The boat speedo's were always way higher than the radar gun.

Back in those days having a step did not mean too much because it was more of a trial / error thing. The Century Ultra III boat drove more like a Deep Vee with no aeration. No BS it was very slow to be honest with you but stable. Just saying.

250ekelly 07-14-2016 01:14 PM

Well I ended up getting the boat. Got it for super cheap waited a year and last week they finally accepted my offer. The stringers are rotten. I can part it out if I have to but I think we're gonna restore it. I may make a thread in the restoration section.

CDShack 07-14-2016 01:20 PM

I think it's a cool boat! Restore it! You'll never see another like yours!


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