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Might be able to get this for cheap. Just seeing if any one knows any thing about it.
Hour meter says 100 hours. Boats been sitting under tarp since 07 was winterized. Fresh water use.



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The coast guard MIC database indicates the first three letters of the hin (CGN) to be Petit Manan boats, Steuben Mass. The last 2 indicate the year, 1991. I have never heard of that brand of boat before. Lots of $$ to get her back to seaworthy and hard to sell.

Interesting. I can't even find any thing on google about them. By hard to sell do you mean in the condition it's in our even after its fixed up. She's asking 10k but I think I could get it for 7

Orphan boat thats 30 years old. Free is good IMO. There is a lot to do on that one.

even free you better have an open wallet. sitting for 8 years that alone can be a lot with just gas tanks if they are junk - just wait to you really get digging into it - OPEN WALLET. Wiring, fuel systems, corrosion,any wood dry or wet rot and probably some rats got into spaces that you would never think of. They love wires to. That's not even including the engines and drives yet.

This hull started in 1988 or 1989 by Century and somewhere along the way Glasstream was in the mix. The company CGM was General Marine Industries out of Panama City FL. in which owned a few boat companies ( Century & Glasstream & ???)

The boat in the pics was manu in June of 1990 for model year 1991.

Back then those companies Glasstream and Century for the I/O brands were always involved in some kind hull changing deals.

If you enjoy working on boats, and don't really care if you actually make it out on the water this could be a fun time. I wouldn't touch it even for free as I'm struggling enough with a perfectly good boat.

Keep it under the tarp.

I do really enjoy working on boats. I'm in the middle of one now. Almost done with it. I shouldn't get this one but I feel like it's a cool rare boat. And if I can get it cheap I shouldn't pass it up. What y'all are saying is giving me some more confidence about getting it cheap cause it sounds like not many people wanna mess with something like this so if she don't take my offer she may in a few weeks lol. I'm gonna do some more checking Monday off the condition of the wood. She says it ran perfect when the parked it. Any ideas on what engines those are?

engines appear to be 454s,no doubt the 330 hp version.unless you can pick it up really cheap i would pass.

Here some more pics. This things got a step to! Not many people were doing that in 1990.

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those look to be 365 mag motors..hence you can see the high rise intake manifolds..see if a magnet sticks to them..the boat def needs some tlc..worse case if they run and everything mechanical you have works theres at least 10 k in parts that can be sold.

look at the rust around the choke stoves.ever seen rust on aluminum?

Looks like an old boat with old engines. It's history and built seems dubious so resale will always be an issue. If you're a guy who can rebuild everything from scratch and looking for a project that will probably lose money then make an offer.

My way of thinking, the initial question "what kind of boat is this?" I would have to answer........ "The kind with lots of headaches that I don't need and no reward at the end."

RR

Will add boats that sit outside even under a carport like this and 8 years is a very long time most have fuel related problems that all start at the gas tanks. If you are not able to get to the gas tanks and possible to pull them out - you will have on going problems that will seem to never end. You will need an open wallet to have a reliable boat on the water. Boats that sit for long periods of time do not hold up well

I'd be leery of spending that much on a Cigarette or Apache rigged with those motors and in that shape, let alone a pretty much unknown hull...IJS

Here a picture I zoomed in on the intake looks to be aluminum. I'm at the river today I'll be back at the boat tomorrow I gonna take some more pictures. The boat is actually it really good shape. It was in fresh water its whole life. Didn't get used much which I agree can be a bad thing. If I wash this thing up you would think I just took it out yesterday. I'm gonna scope it out some more tomorrow. Money isn't really a issue. I'm gonna talk to the lady Monday. Gonna offer her 5k.
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Let me how it works out I was thinking maybe 3 to 4 max. I do know someone that might be interested who would want to splash the bottom and improve upon it. He is looking for around 28 to 32 ft range to produce a couple of V hulls from. He is moving to TN and wants to start making a few V hull boats but has no V- hull molds as of yet to do so..

It's very well possible you'll end up fine. I don't think I need to mention it's a gamble but you can't pick up much for 5k. Trailer included? Worst case you can always part it out. If your able to I'd pull the plugs and role the engines over either by hand or heck if everything is still in place see if you can bump the starter / key - jumpers etc. Look for any signs of manifold or block cracks. Take a ball peen hammer and tap around on the outer transom and listen for any variances indicating transom rot. Good luck

If you can get that thing for $5K, I would think the trailer would bring half of that. If the engines and drives are salvageable, you could probably part those out and make back the rest of your money. Looks like it has closed cooling, so that should lessen the odds of freeze cracking or corrosion. I like the styling of it from the front, but not crazy about the stern layout - reminds me of some of the old Chris Crafts. Check the hull out really well - the boat industry was dealing with the recession back in the early 90's and a lot of corners were being cut. Hell, if you get it for really cheap, and it floats, tow it out to a cove and you and your buddies can take that Bud and pizza party out on the water. :D

I agree with all the negatives and money involved but lets also look at the flip side. That is ONE COOL BOAT..Love the Hull.

Chris

mikey wass up..yes..the cover for the choke stove are steel..a magnet should tell him..on the 330 hp one the intake manifold is even with where the bolts hold the vc on..mag intakes are about 2'' taller..casting number3269816..

Did some more lookin on the engines. Block casting # 10068286 comes up as 4 bolt IV sort deck. Intake is for sure aluminum I held a magnet to it. Carb flange sits 1-1/2 inches above top of valve cover. Yes engines are closed cooked. And the manifolds are cooled with the antifreeze also. I don't like the way the exhaust comes out the side gonna be hard to run performance manifolds/ headers. Rear steps are weird but I kind of like it. Def a one of a kind boat. I'm anxious to see how this hull performs. Looks like it could be fast. Got 25 mirage prop on it I laid under the boat looking for scratches found one nick size of yr pinky toenail. A few scratches on the front where the crank is. Headed back out of town for work now. I'll be talking to lady tomorrow find out more info and make a offer.
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Casting number on intake says 6269318. Google says used on 454 mag and 502 here a few of the stringer

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def a mag intake..you can see the dual pattern carberator bolt pattern..this intake will accept a holly 4150 style carb..

yes the new pictures clearly show the intake manifold is from a 365 mag engine.you can also see the winters casting id logo on it.

Any idea how many hours are on the boat / engines / drives?

Hour meter says 100. I haven't put a battery on it yet to see if it works. Can't be much more. You can just tell it hasn't been used. Idiots just let it sit

Is this the same guy who has the old profile 28 mold?

NO he is trying to move from CA to TN - www.cougarboats.com He just bought these last year and has no affiliation with the past Cougar boats owner. NONE. I know this guy. Has no V- hull molds.

been doing some digging. found some cool info. here is the link to there site.http://www.glasstream.com/about.php

turns out there new boats are based of the 1988 "race" hull design, says they won the APBA Divisional Championship in Key West that year

here a video of the race. https://youtu.be/F5ZbeMN0AmA

Before any cash is exchanged please at the very minimum get a battery on the engines, see if they turn over and hit them with a little starting fluid. I bought a cabin cruiser that sat for over 5 years with no issues and this was the only way I would have bought it. I heard the engines fire.

I've moved on from trying to save a fellow boater many of the same miseries that we've all gone through, to looking forward to seeing it's own new thread in the restoration section. ;)

Sorry, double post

RR

Just looking at this first picture above, the only thing the owner has done is uncovered the boat. Hasn't cleaned anything or tried to turn an engine over and he's already had a large pizza and a beer.

How many pizzas and beers would it take to get the boat back to her original glory?

RR

P.S. I do see the appeal in the boat, undersides look great, trailer looks good but it's easier to sit and guess at all the negatives! Apologies to the O.P.

My first boat was 1989 Glasstream Regatta.... 20' cuddy.

Haha yea i was eating pizza and drinking beer while pretending to drive it. Im trying to leave it dirty so if the owner comes to look at it i can get it cheaper. Supposedly she's up in age this guy is selling it for her it's kind of a screwy situation. I messed up tho i accidentally fell in love with the boat. Don't worry i may be young dumb and full of cum but i won't over pay, and yes the lady says i can start it and take it out before buying.

That's a cool looking boat! Before starting it, I'd pull the distributors and get oil pressure with a drill motor. Mark exactly where the housing and rotor were before pulling them out and they'll go back in easy after you line up tang in the oil pump shaft. If you really stumbled on a pair of low hour mercs, to me it would be worth the effort. After you do this (AFTER distributors are back in), gently make sure they turn though a rotation by using a breaker bar on the front pulley bolt. Much easier to do this with plugs out. Randy

Their promotional material says "A 100% wood free construction. Everything from the upholstery to the rub rail is made from non-deteriorating materials. The deck and hull are completely glassed together. The stringer system is a molded, foam filled, fiberglass grid system." You should try to contact them to find out when they started using the wood free construction. Doubtful that they were doing that way back in 1988, but if so, it would alleviate a lot of concerns about rotten wood. If you have access take a look up inside the gunwale and see if the hull to deck joint is bonded and fiberglassed, or just put together with screws. That right there will tell you a lot about the level of detail they put towards hull construction.

Looks like there are some forums on their site with some recent activity. You might try posting on there to see if you can find someone who has a similar boat. They might be able to provide some useful info.

BTW, I am very curious about that square thing on the port side stern. It almost looks like some kind of heat exchanger. What is that?