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yschmidt 06-02-2015 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 4311303)
i tore an engine apart yesterday,i was amazed at two mistakes i found.the engine was built by a high quality shop so i guess anyone can make mistakes.

The irony

SB 06-02-2015 03:18 PM

I was installing a BRAND NEW replacement long block from Chevrolet for a 94 Chevy K1500. About an hr or so from completion, another mechanic whom I didn't get to along with that well with walked by an laughed. This was actually his 2nd or third time walking by and laughing. I finally confronted him this last time and asked waht was up. He pointed at the driver side cylinder head and said "where are the spark plugs ?" I said " I install those last" as I normally did/do. He walked off laughing. I was majorly like "WTF !"

Well, I get to the point of putting plugs in. Passenger side first and then the...uhhhhhh.....WTF !

Driver side was never machined for spark plugs. No holes even. "Really ?"

Yup, he wasn't making up his laughing. We was a Mopar Tech, so it was even funnier to him to see a Chevy guy get bit in the azz straight from Chevy.

Who would have figured ?

Off all things to fubar !

Budman II 06-02-2015 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4312226)
I was installing a BRAND NEW replacement long block from Chevrolet for a 94 Chevy K1500. About an hr or so from completion, another mechanic whom I didn't get to along with that well with walked by an laughed. This was actually his 2nd or third time walking by and laughing. I finally confronted him this last time and asked waht was up. He pointed at the driver side cylinder head and said "where are the spark plugs ?" I said " I install those last" as I normally did/do. He walked off laughing. I was majorly like "WTF !"

Well, I get to the point of putting plugs in. Passenger side first and then the...uhhhhhh.....WTF !

Driver side was never machined for spark plugs. No holes even. "Really ?"

Yup, he wasn't making up his laughing. We was a Mopar Tech, so it was even funnier to him to see a Chevy guy get bit in the azz straight from Chevy.

Who would have figured ?

Off all things to fubar !

You should have taken pictures of that one.

KAAMA 06-02-2015 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by the deep (Post 4312202)
This is not a problem with the heads , it's normal procedure to clearance the valve guides for the end users intended purpose . AFR tells us on their website and in the literature that comes with your heads to do this .

If I made it sound like it was a problem from AFR, I certainly didn't intend to. Wesseldyk always checks valve guide clearances and tweeks them in if he feels he has to on any head when he builds engines...it's just part of his MO and protocol.

I am in no way saying anything against AFR, I think they're great heads. :)

the deep 06-02-2015 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by KAAMA (Post 4312305)
If I made it sound like it was a problem from AFR, I certainly didn't intend to. Wesseldyk always checks valve guide clearances and tweeks them in if he feels he has to on any head when he builds engines...it's just part of his MO and protocol.

I am in no way saying anything against AFR, I think they're great heads. :)

I was referring to the title of this thread . Just didn't want someone to think there is a problem where there isn't one . If we don't check all clearances then the onus is on us when things turn to chit .

Tim@AFR 06-05-2015 05:49 PM

Good evening guys, Tim Torrecarion with AFR here. Let me start out with saying Tim (FullForce) we sympathize with your situation and hope you can get back out on the water soon!


Originally Posted by Black Baja (Post 4311544)

Originally Posted by the deep (Post 4311539)
Ok guys , I had my builder check the valve guide clearances on my new AFR 315's . Clearances were .0018 and will be opened up a bit . Now for the kick in the azz , my heads were assembled DRY :eekdrop::eekdrop::eekdrop: Tim bought his heads about the same time I did sooooooo come to your own conclusion . I posted this because it was the ethical thing to do to maybe save another brother from heartbreak . Also checked the coding on my springs when I received the heads simply because there was ZERO documentation that they were changed out to what I ordered , they were correct . What the hell's going on at the AFR plant that they would ship out a set of $3100.00 + heads assembled phucking DRY . I tend to leave NOTHING to chance but did not expect this !!!!!

Mine are dry also. I've seen this trend not only with AFR's also Brodix.

AFR heads are assembled with Synthetic Mobil 30w oil and a minimum amount of oil is needed to lubricate the valve so it might not always be dripping with oil. As always anything is possible though which is why we are here for you guys!

If you need anything our Customer Service Technicians are all qualified in high performance engine builds/AFR products and can help you with any questions or issues you may have. At the end of the day your satisfaction is our #1 priority. Phone: 877-892-8844

You can also reach me directly by email [email protected] if there is anything else you need assistance with. Just as a heads up I will be out at the Super Summit Show this weekend and returning to the office on Monday.

Have a great weekend all!

Unlimited jd 06-05-2015 06:04 PM

Just so everyone is clear I started this thread to show there have been little to know issues with afr heads not a widespread dilemma

14 apache 06-05-2015 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by Unlimited jd (Post 4313698)
Just so everyone is clear I started this thread to show there have been little to know issues with afr heads not a widespread dilemma

Well now you brought a big dawg into this! LOL

Full Force 06-05-2015 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by Tim@AFR (Post 4313690)
Good evening guys, Tim Torrecarion with AFR here. Let me start out with saying Tim (FullForce) we sympathize with your situation and hope you can get back out on the water soon!



AFR heads are assembled with Synthetic Mobil 30w oil and a minimum amount of oil is needed to lubricate the valve so it might not always be dripping with oil. As always anything is possible though which is why we are here for you guys!

If you need anything our Customer Service Technicians are all qualified in high performance engine builds/AFR products and can help you with any questions or issues you may have. At the end of the day your satisfaction is our #1 priority. Phone: 877-892-8844

You can also reach me directly by email [email protected] if there is anything else you need assistance with. Just as a heads up I will be out at the Super Summit Show this weekend and returning to the office on Monday.

Have a great weekend all!

Thanks bud, your company has been extremely good to work with and I will use afr heads again in the future.

I will have my replacement head next week and my machinist is setting heads up my application in the Great Lakes.

mike tkach 06-05-2015 10:13 PM

tim,is afr giving you a head for free?


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