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Old 06-09-2015 | 05:39 AM
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Wasn't commandersander outed as a liar selling a new part that wasn't ? Or do I have the wrong guy ?
I think he was the one complaining about PayPal...
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Old 06-09-2015 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dsmawd350
Pm commandersander on here if I'm a liar. I bought the motors from him. And he told me the blowers were brand new beside basically dyno time and made 653hp on 5psi I believe. It pushed my boat to 94.8 on GPS and I literally only ran it for maybe 15 hrs.
Only 5 PSI with the blower set to run at 2:1 (100% overdriven) on an iron-head 502? That setup should have been making closer to double that amount of boost. On the positive side of things, the carbs seem to work really well (especially after I had them fixed from shipping damage that UPS wouldn't cover).

Not trying to point fingers or start a flame war, but this hasn't been the best experience. I seriously doubt that this setup was brand new when you got it. Anyway, I'll make it all work.
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Old 06-09-2015 | 02:59 PM
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So I listened to the video of the engine running on the dyno, and though we couldn't hear it in the control room, the mic on my phone picked up a lot of belt squeal once hard on it. It's hard to hear, but definitely there. I didn't have the blower off last night (dead tired), but did notice that the belt was starting to come apart in the center ribs (glad I ordered a brand new one from Bando).
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Old 06-09-2015 | 03:16 PM
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So I listened to the video of the engine running on the dyno, and though we couldn't hear it in the control room, the mic on my phone picked up a lot of belt squeal once hard on it. It's hard to hear, but definitely there. I didn't have the blower off last night (dead tired), but did notice that the belt was starting to come apart in the center ribs (glad I ordered a brand new one from Bando).
Hopefully that's the good news. Yeah UPS isn't worth anything when the damage stuff. My buddy shipped a drive one time made a nice wooden crate for it. When it came back to him it looked like one fork from a fork lift went through the crate and put a whole in the lower unit the size of a fork. UPS said it wasn't packaged properly. "Note to self" when packaging for UPS make sure the package is forklift proof.
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Old 06-09-2015 | 03:37 PM
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In this case, all 100 lbs of blower and intake/carbs were thrown into a box, taped shut, sent. The box showed up with parts of the blower sticking out of it. UPS wouldn't even talk to me.
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Old 06-09-2015 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TomZ
In this case, all 100 lbs of blower and intake/carbs were thrown into a box, taped shut, sent. The box showed up with parts of the blower sticking out of it. UPS wouldn't even talk to me.
Well the stuff shouldn't be thrown in the box but UPS shouldn't throw the boxes around either and believe me that's all they do is throw the stuff.
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Old 06-09-2015 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Baja
Well the stuff shouldn't be thrown in the box but UPS shouldn't throw the boxes around either and believe me that's all they do is throw the stuff.
Agreed. We deal with UPS all the time here with our business. If it isn't packaged extremely well, then don't count on it making it to a destination safely that's for sure!
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Old 06-09-2015 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TomZ
So I listened to the video of the engine running on the dyno, and though we couldn't hear it in the control room, the mic on my phone picked up a lot of belt squeal once hard on it. It's hard to hear, but definitely there. I didn't have the blower off last night (dead tired), but did notice that the belt was starting to come apart in the center ribs (glad I ordered a brand new one from Bando).
Certainly sounds like you need a new belt. But from what I've seen on these serpentine belt driven blowers, esp prochargers, is if there's a belt slippage issue, the boost usually takes a chit at some point on the dyno pull, esp in the upper rpm band.

I'd still pull the blower and take a look at the clearances
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Old 06-10-2015 | 10:38 AM
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Yep. I plan to pull it anyway so that I can get the engine back in the boat. There isn't enough clearance to get it in and out fully dressed.

The overall thought here is that we're dealing with a tired blower (only making 5 lbs of boost at 100% overdriven on a 502 is a definitely a clue), and a bad belt. She'll still run well for the season, and I'll tackle the rest after the season is finished.
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Old 06-10-2015 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 260Velocity
Hi. I am a new member here at OSO. I have been reading threads for years. Anyway, I just wanted to put my experience in this thread. I had a 509 with 320 pro topline heads with JE 8.5-1 comp and crane hyd roller. I had a 250 charger with no intercooler and small pulley. It made 8-9 pounds at 5200 with a 26 4blade in my260 velocity. Roughly 650. Hp.
Thanks. My point exactly. Tired blower.
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