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What Engine Oil for Superchaged Engine?
What engine oil are you guys using for your supercharged engines?
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Oh boy... :food-smiley-007:
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BTW, I have had GL with VR1 50, Brad Penn 50, and even M1 15-50 and 20-50 (higher zinc).
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Why change then?
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Originally Posted by minxguy
(Post 4316117)
Why change then?
Ken |
:food-smiley-007::food-smiley-007::food-smiley-007::food-smiley-007::food-smiley-007:add some salt in the oil,forget about zinc,it taste bad.
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Originally Posted by JRider
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Reread the above posts
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Depends on how much blowby you have.....lol....I see many SC motors with major oil smoke coming out of the breathers.
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Poor OP unwittingly steps onto an OSO Tech forum landmine...
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Originally Posted by SB
(Post 4316312)
Depends on how much blowby you have.....lol....I see many SC motors with major oil smoke coming out of the breathers.
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Renegade Racing oil 3000ppm
Valvoline Vr1 2100ppm Both excellent oils. One things I don't like about VR1 is it's very difficult to see on the stick. Renegade is blue. They are both in the $4-5/ qt range. |
Originally Posted by SB
(Post 4316312)
Depends on how much blowby you have.....lol....I see many SC motors with major oil smoke coming out of the breathers.
Originally Posted by Black Baja
(Post 4316336)
Hey, easy now. Don't want to get the natives stirred up.
While he did not, nor I did not, build his shortblocks, they leak down just fine, and since that video was taken there was nothing coming from the breathers besides a fine mist of oil, which is why even the best marine engine builders have puke tanks on their big power engines. That "smoke" you see, is NOT burning oil coming from breathers. Either of you guys got any videos of your boats running? Seems like you guys always have alot to say, but nothing to show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3zQvghTrf0 |
it,s pretty hard to video unfinished engines that are still on a engine stand.i hope someday we see the power results from them.
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 4316410)
I'm sure you guys are referring to Icdedppl's video. FWIW, that is steam vapors from the moisture in the oil thanks to his leaking stellings headers, which have been replaced with stainless marine Gen III exhaust and 5'' dry tails.
While he did not, nor I did not, build his shortblocks, they leak down just fine, and since that video was taken there was nothing coming from the breathers besides a fine mist of oil, which is why even the best marine engine builders have puke tanks on their big power engines. That "smoke" you see, is NOT burning oil coming from breathers. Either of you guys got any videos of your boats running? Seems like you guys always have alot to say, but nothing to show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3zQvghTrf0 |
Originally Posted by mike tkach
(Post 4316421)
nice video,i see you have a fast afr setup.you know the results from that type of equipment is useless.just pull the plugs and read them.
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^^^^^^very nice avatar^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
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Fast widebands dont hold up well when you get them wet after you flip your boat over trying to do speed runs, or lose control of it and crash it into the rocks. Best bet is to keep the electronics to a minimum, and stick to plug reading . Plus, replacing all those pistons is fun when you melt them and blame it on your timing light accuracy.
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Plus, replacing all those pistons is fun when you melt them and blame it on your timing light accuracy.
Can that really Happen? Wow! Now before this gets out of hand just look at where this thread got high jacked then PLEASE PLEASE shut up |
Originally Posted by abones
(Post 4316429)
Plus, replacing all those pistons is fun when you melt them and blame it on your timing light accuracy.
Can that really Happen? Wow! Now before this gets out of hand just look at where this thread got high jacked then PLEASE PLEASE shut up |
Its really too bad! this guy comes on to ask a question and now once again it turns to crap.. I don't understand the reason!
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 4316410)
I'm sure you guys are referring to Icdedppl's video.
I would not point him out for anything for obvious reason's. |
Originally Posted by abones
(Post 4316433)
Its really too bad! this guy comes on to ask a question and now once again it turns to crap.. I don't understand the reason!
I can say this, I only know of one person ever that had engine wear problems because of the oil he used, and this was a non oiling thru the pushrod 2k+ horsepower alcohol motor....having pushrod to rocker arm wear issues. That said, I like VR1 for many engines and I like ROtella/Delo 15w40 for many other engines. |
i almost feel sorry for the op.asking a oil related question around here is like playing with fire.imo,things like bearing clearance,hp level,max rpm and type of boat and intended use all contribute to what oil is best for the application.
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Nothing beats FRESH oil and a good maintenance schedule. fancy oil will do nothing for helping poor machine work, poor assembly, poor rigging, or a poor tune up.
I say go with a quality brand oil and filter, keep it clean, dont overheat it, dont overcool it and go have fun. |
Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 4316443)
Nothing beats FRESH oil and a good maintenance schedule. fancy oil will do nothing for helping poor machine work, poor assembly, poor rigging, or a poor tune up.
I say go with a quality brand oil and filter, keep it clean, dont overheat it, dont overcool it and go have fun. |
This is hard to beat .. I get em shipped right to my house.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mobil-1-15...ingMethod=p13n |
Originally Posted by mike tkach
(Post 4316446)
good advice!i have seen drain oil so nasty i wondered how the thing still ran.i won,t mention any names but i know a guy who had 150 hrs on his oil in his single engine boat and had no issues.after i scolded him he now changes oil and filter at 50 hrs,he just didn,t know any better.
502MPI. Found the typical regulator vac hose off. Okay, fixed that. Not much better. Ticking noise from driver's side valve cover was slightly on my mind - enough to notice, but not to check out yet. Checked oil. Very dark. Weird thing was that the oil was very thin....never really see oil that thin, even in cars that come to my shop for oil change and right off the street plenty hot. Oil smelled like fuel, like fking big time ! Scary ! Had oil and my extractor in back of my truck, no filter, and did a quicky oil change cause it stunned me how thin from fuel this oil was. Asked the guy when oil change was done. He said he pays his marina to do it every spring along with spark plugs and such. Okay, new oil in (15w40 Rotella if you must know) and engine runs like there is no issue. Valve ticking noise is gone. I come back later to change oil again and of course filter. Guess fuking what ? Oil filter had never been changed since boat was new.Had the new markings on it from the manufacuturer. Guessing the oil neither. Holy schit ! Thought the guy assumed marina was charging him for LOF and tune up, but he later showed me his spring put in water receipts. He was paying for them. Was itemized right in each bill. WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Motor still stayed together after all that. Obviously I changed plugs/cap/rotor/fuel filter, and serviced everything shortly after. Lost some faith there. |
Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
(Post 4316451)
This is hard to beat .. I get em shipped right to my house.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mobil-1-15...ingMethod=p13n |
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Our oil engineer and tester got banned if you remember, when he couldn't get his one of a kind 496 built.
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Originally Posted by snapmorgan
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Our oil engineer and tester got banned if you remember, when he couldn't get his one of a kind 496 built.
See, our oil threads have gotten better, not worse. We are making progress here ! |
Originally Posted by snapmorgan
(Post 4316472)
Our oil engineer and tester got banned if you remember, when he couldn't get his one of a kind 496 built.
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So for all his genius he couldn`t even finish that engine? Now that`s funny
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Originally Posted by snapmorgan
(Post 4316472)
Our oil engineer and tester got banned if you remember, when he couldn't get his one of a kind 496 built.
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
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If youre interested his one of a kind 496 , it was for sale on facebook a couple weeks ago. Just needs finishing touches.
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Originally Posted by chrisf695
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And his engine was never for sale for the record. Kinda hard to post up videos and progress when he is no longer a member here.
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
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:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by chrisf695
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Don't see anything about borgie anywhere on the add. But sounds like he's on your mind an awful lot even to this day. Kinda weird...
If your here to defend your friend, please bring some hard facts next time, rather than call me a liar with what you think you know. |
I don't need hard facts as his motor is 1. A gen V and always has been. 2. Was machined by Texas Joe in New River Arizona. 3. Has a 14 quart Dan Olson pan. 4.Holley DIS coils. But if it makes you feel better thinking this other engine is his, guess that's your business as he probably could care less and isn't even here to defend himself. Posting a cell number somehow proves who he is? Maybe you can use google to try and link the number to Borgie.... Again awefully obsessed with a guy who's been off of OSO for some time now. But that's your business.
Oh and I like Mobil 1 and RedLine fwiw getting back to the OP. As others have already stated, oil is kinda like a religion lol! |
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