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kvogt 10-16-2015 08:32 AM

Mike I'm pretty sure horsepower1 is Scott Foxwell.

MILD THUNDER 10-16-2015 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 4366790)
horsepower1,pardon me for not knowing who you are .you stated [if you buy heads from me].please tell me who you are and what buisness name you use so i know who to call for your [race ready marine heads].

I think that is scott foxwell??. I know someone from the forum here that recently sent their heads to him, and had the guides honed, and some other stuff done to them prior to bolting on. And so far has logged 3 poker runs since engines installled, cruising at 5000-5500rpm for almost 500 miles by water. So far so good.

Teague also sells their afr heads fully machined , but they switch to 3/8 valves i wanna say instead of 11/32 as they say they feel the 3/8 is a more durable setup. Thier words.

mike tkach 10-16-2015 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by kvogt (Post 4366796)
Mike I'm pretty sure horsepower1 is Scott Foxwell.

kris,you are correct,i just recieved a pm from him giving me that information.i am not sure why he sent a pm instead of replying on this thread.i do not try to hide who i am on oso and i don,t pay much attention to those who do.no doubt in my mind mr foxwell has an agenda!

MILD THUNDER 10-16-2015 08:51 AM

Heres a read. Even a rep from afr showed some concerns in this thread about some things being discussed

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/show.../748241?page=1

mike tkach 10-16-2015 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4366799)
I think that is scott foxwell??. I know someone from the forum here that recently sent their heads to him, and had the guides honed, and some other stuff done to them prior to bolting on. And so far has logged 3 poker runs since engines installled, cruising at 5000-5500rpm for almost 500 miles by water. So far so good.

Teague also sells their afr heads fully machined , but they switch to 3/8 valves i wanna say instead of 11/32 as they say they feel the 3/8 is a more durable setup. Thier words.

joe,can you post the name who the oso member or members are that sent their heads to mr foxwall and why the needed to send them.also can you tell me what brand of heads they have?

horsepower1 10-16-2015 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 4366808)
kris,you are correct,i just recieved a pm from him giving me that information.i am not sure why he sent a pm instead of replying on this thread.i do not try to hide who i am on oso and i don,t pay much attention to those who do.no doubt in my mind mr foxwell has an agenda!

Well I guess it's no secret...and Mike, I explained exactly why I sent you the PM instead of replying so you're not being very honest here. If you want, I'll post my PM to you. Just trying to avoid the drama, that's my only agenda. Also, PM's are just that...PRIVATE messages. Thanks for respecting that.

Unlimited jd 10-16-2015 09:26 AM

A guy on yellow bullet bolted a set of out of the box afr's on his nova wagon 540 tt build ran 7's throughout all of drag week, no issue. Has something changed in the last year or so at afr?

mike tkach 10-16-2015 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by horsepower1 (Post 4366816)
Well I guess it's no secret...and Mike, I explained exactly why I sent you the PM instead of replying so you're not being very honest here. If you want, I'll post my PM to you. Just trying to avoid the drama, that's my only agenda. Also, PM's are just that...PRIVATE messages. Thanks for respecting that.

mr foxwell,do not come hear and question my honesty,i do not come on oso with an alias,i have not been banned and you have no right to tell me what private messaging is for.

mike tkach 10-16-2015 09:36 AM

ok fellas,i will ask again to keep this thread on track,i am looking to educate myself about aftermarket cylinder heads.if you had a issue with any brand of aftermarket cylinderhead this is what i want to hear about.i am aware of afr recomending the guides be checked in extreme marine use,but once again,I AM LOOKING FOR INFORMATION FROM OSO MEMBERS WHO HAD AN ISSUE WITH ANY BRAND OF AFTERMARKET HEAD.i have NO AGENDA with this thread,i just want to educate myself so i know what product to use and what not to use.thanks.

mike tkach 10-16-2015 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by horsepower1 (Post 4366816)
Well I guess it's no secret...and Mike, I explained exactly why I sent you the PM instead of replying so you're not being very honest here. If you want, I'll post my PM to you. Just trying to avoid the drama, that's my only agenda. Also, PM's are just that...PRIVATE messages. Thanks for respecting that.

mr foxwell,post the pm or if you would like i can do it.it does not take a lot of balls to come on with an alias but it does take balls to question my honesty.i am a respected member and i take offense to you questioning my honesty.

Unlimited jd 10-16-2015 09:52 AM

I'm glad I can't afford new out of the box heads and have to buy people's old worn out junk and fix it lol. But I'm with you mike, I'd like to know what problems have been had for future builds.

Knot 4 Me 10-16-2015 10:11 AM

Got a buddy that has been running Brodix BB-2 heads for about 6 seasons now. I'm 90% sure they were used straight out of the box but I will verify. We poker run the boat one or two times a year and it does not get babied. No issues to date. Max RPM 5.400.

offshorexcursion 10-16-2015 11:10 AM

Mike

Can we please just welcome all members post

Some members like yourself do not advertise thier business on OSO but do enjoy sharing info. There is a fine line when posting between advertising ones own business against OSO policy and genuinely sharing info.

I believe Horsepower1 and you both genuinely enjoy chatting boats and sharing free info.

This site NEEDS more professionals to contribute!

horsepower1 10-16-2015 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 4366828)
mr foxwell,post the pm or if you would like i can do it.it does not take a lot of balls to come on with an alias but it does take balls to question my honesty.i am a respected member and i take offense to you questioning my honesty.

Your comment:


kris,you are correct,i just recieved a pm from him giving me that information.i am not sure why he sent a pm instead of replying on this thread.i do not try to hide who i am on oso and i don,t pay much attention to those who do.no doubt in my mind mr foxwell has an agenda!
My PM to you was:



Hi Mike,
My name is Scott Foxwell and I own Foxwell Motorsports. I also work for Chris Straub building engines and doing induction development. I'm not sure why but I've been found "guilty by association" because of my ties with Chris who seems dearly hated by a handfull on this board. I have never done business with, nor have I even met, anyone here that I know of so any "opinion" of me is purely emotional and speculative. I'm trying to participate in this forum without the attached drama. I am NOT trying to drum up business...I'm backlogged probably through next year. I'm just here to try and offer some good input on subjects I have a little knowledge and experience in. If you want to see some of my work, I have a FB page "Foxwell Motorsports". My website is very out dated and might not even be working. I hesitate to post anything like this outwardly because no matter what the truth or facts are, there will be those who will just try and deface me and I'm not playing that game. If you have any more questions, I'm glad to answer.
Thanks
Scott
What you said was not true.
This is as far as I'm taking this.

MILD THUNDER 10-16-2015 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by horsepower1 (Post 4366877)
Your comment:



My PM to you was:




What you said was not true.
This is as far as I'm taking this.

Now that i know who you are...

I know a little more about you from the posts ive seen over the years on performance boats, yellowbullet, and couple other sites. I will form my opinion of you, based on that, rather than what your arch enemy may have said about you.

Seems like you have more than enough hands on experience with engines , definitely more so than I, and think you are perfectly qualified to discuss your experiences with cylinder heads here. No more, or no less, than most who post here. Therefore, i look forward to hearing what you have to say about this topic, just as i do the other engine builders who have chimed in. I personally dont care about agendas or who doesnt like you. I will determine whether or not you post good info, or bullchit, and form my own opinion of you. And until now, i personally havent seen you post anything on the other forums, that make you appear to be a "con man, scam artist, piece of trash, or whatever has been said here ".

As for others, i cannot speak of what it is they want out of this forum. Some believe what they want to believe, who they want to believe, and that will never change

mike tkach 10-16-2015 12:12 PM

mr foxwell,am i wrong in thinking that you honed the guides in kevin,s heads?once again you are a new member and you jumped right on this thread.if that is not having an agenda i don,t know what is.

mike tkach 10-16-2015 12:14 PM

mr foxwell,i would like to add that i form my own opinions about people and i am not one to jump on the band wagon.

donzi matt 10-16-2015 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 4366894)
mr foxwell,am i wrong in thinking that you honed the guides in kevin,s heads?once again you are a new member and you jumped right on this thread.if that is not having an agenda i don,t know what is.

He actually started out on Kevin's engine developer thread that has been deleted.

According to his FB page he had his hand in Kevin's latest engines:


Crank it up and enjoy this video of Kevin and Kristy Kaczan's beautiful Cigarette "Unleashed" with Foxwell Motorsports/Straub Technologies induction packages on their twin big block Chevy engines.

mike tkach 10-16-2015 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by offshorexcursion (Post 4366872)
Mike

Can we please just welcome all members post

Some members like yourself do not advertise thier business on OSO but do enjoy sharing info. There is a fine line when posting between advertising ones own business against OSO policy and genuinely sharing info.

I believe Horsepower1 and you both genuinely enjoy chatting boats and sharing free info.

This site NEEDS more professionals to contribute!

kevin,just t clear the air,i do not have a business,i am just a guy who builds engines in my out building for a small group of people.i have worked professionally as an assembler in several shops part time through the years and take pride in what i do.as i stated already,i am trying to gain information from other members and people in the marine industry who use aftermarket heads about issues they have had with any brand of cylinder head.i must say that so far i have not seen any member claim or validate any issues with any brand of head.as far as you having your heads disassembled and opening the guide clearance that was a judgement call but can you without a doubt say it was necessary and had to be done?i think not but am looking forward to your answer.as far as mr foxwell,i don,t know him but i will give him the benifit of doubt.

horsepower1 10-16-2015 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 4366894)
mr foxwell,am i wrong in thinking that you honed the guides in kevin,s heads?once again you are a new member and you jumped right on this thread.if that is not having an agenda i don,t know what is.

Mike, this is the third time you've accused me of having an agenda without saying what it is or might be. I'm thinking you may be the one with the agenda to somehow discredit me on a personal level rather than the information I post. If you have a specific technical question to ask, then I'm happy to answer, but I'm not going to respond to any more of your nonsense on this personal, childish level. I'm not interested and you need to stop.
And yes, I did the work on Kevin's heads.

SB 10-16-2015 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 4366894)
mr foxwell,am i wrong in thinking that you honed the guides in kevin,s heads?once again you are a new member and you jumped right on this thread.if that is not having an agenda i don,t know what is.

One correction with some facts:
He is not a new member. He changed screen names.

See here: http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/m...t-foxwell.html

His 26 posts have been all erased for some reason.

horsepower1 10-16-2015 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4366889)
Now that i know who you are...

I know a little more about you from the posts ive seen over the years on performance boats, yellowbullet, and couple other sites. I will form my opinion of you, based on that, rather than what your arch enemy may have said about you.

Seems like you have more than enough hands on experience with engines , definitely more so than I, and think you are perfectly qualified to discuss your experiences with cylinder heads here. No more, or no less, than most who post here. Therefore, i look forward to hearing what you have to say about this topic, just as i do the other engine builders who have chimed in. I personally dont care about agendas or who doesnt like you. I will determine whether or not you post good info, or bullchit, and form my own opinion of you. And until now, i personally havent seen you post anything on the other forums, that make you appear to be a "con man, scam artist, piece of trash, or whatever has been said here ".

As for others, i cannot speak of what it is they want out of this forum. Some believe what they want to believe, who they want to believe, and that will never change

Thank you sir. We'll see how long this lasts.

horsepower1 10-16-2015 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4366911)
Once correction with some facts:
He is not a new member. He changed screen names.

See here: http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/m...t-foxwell.html

His 26 pots have been all erased for some reason.

My 26 posts were never posted. It was kind of interesting...I could see them on my screen as if they had been posted, but no one else could, so I stopped.

SB 10-16-2015 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by horsepower1 (Post 4366913)
My 26 posts were never posted. It was kind of interesting...I could see them on my screen as if they had been posted, but no one else could, so I stopped.

Actually, people could see them, how else would they have quoted them ?
See here for example:
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...-advice-2.html

So...how and why did your posts disappear ?

offshorexcursion 10-16-2015 12:48 PM

Stop derailing every thread and just post information pertaining to the title

Other members can make their own decisions on which info they choose to take into account on their own projects

Or go sit in your non running boat and make noises

mike tkach 10-16-2015 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by horsepower1 (Post 4366909)
Mike, this is the third time you've accused me of having an agenda without saying what it is or might be. I'm thinking you may be the one with the agenda to somehow discredit me on a personal level rather than the information I post. If you have a specific technical question to ask, then I'm happy to answer, but I'm not going to respond to any more of your nonsense on this personal, childish level. I'm not interested and you need to stop.
And yes, I did the work on Kevin's heads.

mr foxwell,i don,t know you and until today i never heard of you so why you believe i am trying to discredit you is a mystery to me.i will say that after your childish posting i now can see why you might not be very well liked.you say that you are done responding to me,great because i would rather you don,t .

offshorexcursion 10-16-2015 01:03 PM

Mike your ruining your own thread so I guess you don't really care about learning anything...

And it's common knowledge that you do business with Bob so yes you have an agenda

SB 10-16-2015 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by offshorexcursion (Post 4366919)
Stop derailing every thread and just post information pertaining to the title

Other members can make their own decisions on which info they choose to take into account on their own projects

Or go sit in your non running boat and make noises

Every thread ? Please.

You brought him back here, which he had to make a new screen name for so he could post again.

My boat runs great btw.

I did, however, sit on my sled last week-end and pretend to be riding that in the upcoming snow, while making Braap, Braap noises ! And yeh, that runs too.

Thanks for asking and being concerned !

BTW: Start another thread on your dry sump system and ask for opinions if you should have open breathers or sealed off valve covers.

BTW#2: You poked me first.

kvogt 10-16-2015 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 4366845)
Got a buddy that has been running Brodix BB-2 heads for about 6 seasons now. I'm 90% sure they were used straight out of the box but I will verify. We poker run the boat one or two times a year and it does not get babied. No issues to date. Max RPM 5.400.

I run Brodix BB3 XTRA - O s. They have worked well for several years.

MILD THUNDER 10-16-2015 01:29 PM

I bolted on a set of used heads, from a pontiac 400, on my pontiac 400 20 years ago. I ran it like that for a year, then junked the car.

It was a success. Not sure i would call it the right way to do things, but it worked.

horsepower1 10-16-2015 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4366918)
Actually, people could see them, how else would they have quoted them ?
See here for example:
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...-advice-2.html

So...how and why did your posts disappear ?

I have no idea what happened to them. With the vitriol you and your bunch were spewing at that time I figured it was something done on that end. The last several times I tried to post, that was the case. I would post, see it on my page, but no one else could. I asked several other people if they could see my posts but no one could. I was never "banned", just blocked, I figured. Water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned. That was another lifetime ago.

ICDEDPPL 10-16-2015 02:04 PM

I guess the tech discussion is pretty much dead here. Mike, Scott has posted some good info here, why try to chase him away?? I don't get it. It doesn't sound like you.. It sounds like from bobs s mouth to your ear and then here. Shame that one person is putting a wedge between friends and any good discussion here. I'm having some issues, I posted them on another site <sigh >

ICDEDPPL 10-16-2015 02:05 PM

SB you know exactly what happened to his posts don't play dumb, think Borgie

donzi matt 10-16-2015 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4366953)
I'm having some issues, I posted them on another site <sigh >

Youporn doesn't count :grinser010:

Zone 5 10-16-2015 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by horsepower1 (Post 4366945)
I have no idea what happened to them. With the vitriol you and your bunch were spewing at that time I figured it was something done on that end. The last several times I tried to post, that was the case. I would post, see it on my page, but no one else could..

Would that be like your "bunch" ? Or was it just a big coincidence that you rejoined OSO under a different user name right after offshorexcursion posted his epistle, that he refused to reply to and sent all his buddies to speak for him, including you?

and just FYI, if your posts vanished from OSO, it means that a Mod or Admin made them go away. I'm sure they had a good reason.

Zone 5 10-16-2015 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4366954)
SB you know exactly what happened to his posts don't play dumb, think Borgie

Unless he is a Mod or Admin here, which he isn't, how would he know that?

SB 10-16-2015 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4366954)
think Borgie

That's easy.

Redline 5W-30 for everyone. And then go mental when everyone doesn't agree with you.

horsepower1 10-16-2015 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by Zone 5 (Post 4366958)
Would that be like your "bunch" ? Or was it just a big coincidence that you rejoined OSO under a different user name right after offshorexcursion posted his epistle, that he refused to reply to and sent all his buddies to speak for him, including you?

and just FYI, if your posts vanished from OSO, it means that a Mod or Admin made them go away. I'm sure they had a good reason.

Too bad you had to omit the rest of my comment when you quoted me but I will re-state:

Water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned. That was another lifetime ago.

MILD THUNDER 10-16-2015 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by Zone 5 (Post 4366958)
Would that be like your "bunch" ? Or was it just a big coincidence that you rejoined OSO under a different user name right after offshorexcursion posted his epistle, that he refused to reply to and sent all his buddies to speak for him

So, you think that thread was all kevins "buddys" making stories up about marine kinetics bob? I seem to recall quite a few people speaking out there, some whom i know, dont know kevin whatsover.

It was deleted , which i find funny. Did the thread about randy garciga get deleted ? Or the other hundred threads of an unhappy customer speaking out in public?

Maybe it somehow violated oso's handbook. Might be time to double check the rules, and restart that thread. Are the people allowed to speak, or is this pre wwii germany?

TylerBurich 10-16-2015 02:43 PM

Bolted a set of Aluminum Merlin III's to a pair of Gen 6 515's a few years ago. ARP didn't have a part# for the latest version of those heads so it took some piecing together to get the head bolt lengths correct. I did not have this issue when bolting similar heads to my mark IV 454's a year prior since the threaded holes went down into the jacket.


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