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Old 02-12-2016 | 06:33 AM
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Well its been a while since I have updated.

The build is as follows:

Stock forged crank. Reconditioned forged rods with ARP bolts. Melling HV oil pump. TRW 2399 pistons .060 over. The heads I got are stock HP500 Carb heads. They have Manley Severe Duty intakes with inconel exhaust valves. I used a crane 134561 cam with their matching triple springs.
I hope the 'triple springs' was a typo.

Motor looks sharp..
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Old 02-12-2016 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SB
I hope the 'triple springs' was a typo.

Motor looks sharp..
Its has 2 springs and a damper spring. For regular use Crane 99893 is ok. For extended high RPM use Crane recommended 99896 springs. They were $256 vs $89 for the cheap springs. It seems like valvetrain is not the place to try to save money.
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Old 03-14-2016 | 08:02 PM
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Tomorrow is the big day. DYNO TOMORROW!!!!!!!!!
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Old 03-14-2016 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 79formula
Its has 2 springs and a damper spring. For regular use Crane 99893 is ok. For extended high RPM use Crane recommended 99896 springs. They were $256 vs $89 for the cheap springs. It seems like valvetrain is not the place to try to save money.
I hope that was a typo on those springs.

The 99896 spring is for a hydraulic roller camshaft, and will have way to much pressure.

99896 is 150 psi @ 1.900,and has a rate of 528lbs lbs/in. With your cam, it would have around 450lbs of open pressure. That will kill the cam quickly.
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Old 03-14-2016 | 08:55 PM
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Those are the part numbers Crane specifically recomended.
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I hope that was a typo on those springs.

The 99896 spring is for a hydraulic roller camshaft, and will have way to much pressure.

99896 is 150 psi @ 1.900,and has a rate of 528lbs lbs/in. With your cam, it would have around 450lbs of open pressure. That will kill the cam quickly.
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Originally Posted by 79formula
Those are the part numbers Crane specifically recomended.
My crane catalog shows #99893-16, or 96896-16 for that 134561 camshaft.
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Old 03-14-2016 | 09:07 PM
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Old 03-14-2016 | 09:15 PM
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Must be some typos.

Irregardless, the 99896 is a heavy spring meant for hydraulic rollers, not flat tappet hydraulics
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Old 03-14-2016 | 09:20 PM
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99896 spring specs
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Old 03-14-2016 | 09:24 PM
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My solid roller springs had a rate of 551 lb/in.
I recommend not starting that engine tomorrow.
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